Board Thread:Community Voting/@comment-24718406-20160929032831/@comment-26067066-20161002133000

Rapmilo wrote:

Impossibubbles wrote:

Roddy15 wrote:

Rapmilo wrote:

We should aim to take decisions together. The community needs to be aware of the problems that exist within the wiki itself. The admins have to be accepting of that and address the issues accordingly to the community as well. I'd argue the level of democracy we have already has failed. Look at all the recent votes. I wouldn't trust some users here with permission to bold text. This 100% As I stated before as a disclaimer, I don't have experience in this wiki...like at all. I'm only expressing my opinion based on what I've seen in communities that I regularly contribute to (which are, in fact, much smaller than this wiki).

But to address your points, I do agree this wiki's level of democracy is disgusting. And in fact I take back what I said after viewing some of the community votes that have taken place in the past few days.

It's one thing to have a system like I outlined before for a community with relatively responsible members, but it just doesn't work here as most of this community is immature. I'd argue many of the users here are under 13, by the way some people here behave.

Also, my analogy was kind of crude, comparing this community with a country is a bit large-scale. But what I mean to say is that a country should be open (at least to some extent) just as admins should be open to their community.

But this community....is a lost cause, although maybe not totally. I fail to understand the perceived shady nature of the admin site here, it's really just a convenient place for the admins to discuss things more than anything (I suppose PM and email would also work, but frankly a board is much more convenient due to the ability to look back at old posts, keep track of everyone's votes on things, etc). Additionally, many of the admins have little time to be on chat, but are able to use the admin site in order to keep track of what's going on and still participate in the community.