Board Thread:Community Voting/@comment-24839249-20160216191404/@comment-25988337-20160217004445

Skully Of House Lannister wrote: Mishkaiel wrote: Madkatmaximus wrote:

Mishkaiel wrote: .... kden lol

B ofc. How in the world could this be used in appropriate conversation. Like, I don't see how /this/ community could engage in a conversation that would invove this word that would be appropriate. So no. Keep it blocked. For goodness sakes.

=l We already have the words Izzy listed unblocked, so it's not like it never gets brought up. This would not cause more conversations involving the word to suddenly come up just because it's unblocked. I realize that, and I realize also that those she listed are probably used both in appropriate and innapropriate convos. I'd just like to point out that unblocking all of these words /might/ lead to more stuff down the road that would not be beneficial to this wiki.

Again, I bring back the example of the age group this wiki is for. I do realize that many children probably know all of these words and more by the age of 13; however, keep in mind also that there are a fair number of what you would call "uneducated, uncivilized, uncultured homeschoolers" who have probably never heard half of this stuff and are sheltered/protected by their parents. It is their parent's choice to do that, and the wiki does not supercede a child's parent's authority. Therefore, logically thinking, unblocking all of these words and other actions this wiki has taken recently could very well lead to a decrease in the community.

Also, another thing that I'd like to point out which sort of ties into the paragraph above is the fact, or idea, that "this community is getting older, shouldn't our rules and policies reflect that?" And I'd like to agree that yes, rules and policies should improve in general; however, with more, shall we say, "mature" words being unblocked, this leads to conversations that lean towards more mature audiences. This leaves out the newer,  younger members, who would probably be either driven away or introduced to conversations better held when theyr'e a bit older. In any case, if such conversations are to be had in private messages, then by all means, I'm ok with that. But main chat should stay relatively "safe."

Might I also point out on a more humorous note that the word "boobs" is kinda hard to use appropriately. Like for example, who would normally say "boob cancer?"

Also, to the Christians on the wiki. Since this word and others are generally used for innappropriate conversation, what about Ephesians 4:29, which says, "Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear." Colossians 4:6 and I Peter 2:12 also speak on a similar topic.



Anyway, this is just my thinking out loud, take it or leave it.

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 1. The community is like any 13+ community on the internet. A PG13 movie might have the word boob in it, or many other words. Culturally, at 13, kids are expected to know that. If a parent has made the choice to protect their child from that then they shouldn't allow their child to go on any community that is meant for kids 13+.

2. While the majority of the wiki wants to be able to discuss certain things, limiting them for the convienience of the very few, especially if they just feel "uncomfortable" is silly. If the wiki community is meant for older people, they might want to discuss more mature things. If someone of a radically different worldview joined, and everything we did made them "uncomfortable", would we stop? No. We'd say "the majority wants this".

3. If Izzy wants to say "My boobs hurt" thats no more sexual than "My legs hurt", and I've seen the latter on chat. :P If you have decided that a natural body part being discussed in a nonsexual way is too sexual for chat, then you're objectifying womens bodies needlessly. :P

And if you wanted we could quote Bible verses about incest and rape but that doesn't make good reading. :P Might I point out that I said numerous times that while I disagreed on the word "boobs" being unblocked, I also stated that the wiki has the right to make it's own desicions. If it was unclear before, then I will say it /very/ clearly now. If the wiki votes to unblock words or to allow certain actions etc. then I will accept majority vote, that does not mean I have to agree though.

And by all means, quote those verses the Bible doesn't condone incest and rape anyway.

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