Board Thread:Community Voting/@comment-5643582-20150816211900/@comment-5052737-20150817140634

Nightfall395 wrote: ZXSpidermanXZ wrote:

Obi the LEGO Fan wrote:

ZXSpidermanXZ wrote: If it's not verbalized in a rule these trolls will start a smear campaign on anyone who deals harsher bans on them. Many of our CMs are fearful of giving longer bans because when the user complains to an admin it makes a spectacle. Either I'm completely out of the loop since becoming less active a few days ago, or you are blowing things way out of proportion.

The trolls that we are discussing (those who abuse socks and use ToR) are 1) less frequent now than they have been in the past, 2) not respected by the community and lack the reputation to cause much of a "spectacle" or succeed in a "smear campaign." Yes but with some we don't know the true identity of them til later so yes they can blow it out of proportion and cause a ruckus. I get your point and I don't necessarily disagree completely, I just don't see many valid negatives coming from this. How many legit users to we have that use TOR? i can only think of Yada. I've seen pack mention a lot of tor IPs being blocked thanks to nigma being a problem for him; we don't see him anymore, but that's still another user to the list. And how many trolls have we had that definitely use tor? Pretty much the same amount. Here's a link to a page on my personal wiki explaining more reasons this vote is ridiculous, since we already have quite a few long messages in this thread.

Can you please stop attacking Spider? You did that in chat today, and now you are doing it here. This is edging on a hate campaign.