Thread:Obi the LEGO Fan/@comment-25988337-20150705174500/@comment-26047195-20150705224646

Mishkaiel wrote: Luke McSwagger99 wrote: Mishkaiel wrote: Luke McSwagger99 wrote: I've lost an incredible amount of respect for all three of you. At this level you're not even that interested in effectively expressing your "heritage" or whatever it is you choose to be proud of. Instead, you immaturely crave to be as disruptive as possible about it, bringing attention to yourselves and the conflict. State something about your pride in "Confederate heritage" on your userpage or something if you absolutely must; it'll be slightly effective for presenting it as opposed to the vagueness of an avatar that can be easily perceived as racist.

And no, using these as a response to the rainbow LGBT* avatars that a few of our community members here have is not a valid comparison at all. Like I previously mentioned, an avatar that can be perceived as racist is certainly something to as you might label it, "take offense at". An avatar that represents an individual's sexual orientation is by no means something offensive to others, whether you're for or against homosexuality. I personally believe that homosexuality is a sin, but the existence of sin is by no means "offensive" to me, if we're dealing with the general definition of offense here. Don't make weak comparisons, guys. Be mature. If you want respect from others, then please act in a manner deserving of it. The amount of respect you decide to have towards somebody is your decision. You could have little respect for a mature person, and vice versa.

As to your saying " immaturely crave to be as disruptive as possible about it,"  if you are refering to my St George post, then that was intended as humor. Ik you'll say that it was immature humor, and idc wut you think of my humor. So don't even bring it up. And might I point out that you live in Florida, which was on the side of the confederacy. So are you a Yankee living in Rebel territory, or what?

and when has that comparison been made? I never made that comparison. Either somebody else brought it up, or you're making it up. As to be mature, hehe. nvmd. What if we're already acting in said mannor yet you find us immature still? That would make it your problem and not ours.

=l "The amount of respect you decide to have towards somebody is your decision"

Yes true, but your decision is based upon reasoning. You respect someone for who they are, how they conduct themselves, things they've done, ectecera. You don't just wake up one morning and decide to respect someone out of the blue. Respect is something earned.

I'm sorry, with all the immaturity thrown around, it's beginning to grow difficult to take you seriously or to in general, discern from you what is and what is not humorous (also based on the general fact that your usual examples of humor are much more annoying than funny).

"Idc wut you think of my humor. Don't even bring it up."

This is yet another good example that you really don't care what the community thinks of you and that you possess no desire or potential to change your behavior. And I'm sorry, but some aspects of your "humor" just can't go ignored; i.e. the "joke" Rio issued a warning for you about pertaining to your direct reference of whipping black people.

"So are you a Yankee living in Rebel territory or what?"

For your information, the Civil War ended in 1865. I'm an American living in America. I absolutely DON'T CARE whether the state I live in now was Confederate or which side my ancestors fought for, it's completely irrelevant to my political beliefs today. I have other things to be proud of besides some Southern heritage. I don't even know why you bothered bringing that up lol.

"I never even made that comparison"

Oh yes you certainly have, no need to formulate excuses. You've explicitly stated in wearing the Confederate avatar that the rainbow avatars are "offensive" to "us". I don't make things up.

"What if we're already acting in said mannor yet you find us immature still?"

1. *manner

2. Not entirely sure what you mean by this. Is the said manner being the act of displaying maturity? If you all were acting with maturity then I wouldn't find you immature, don't know why you say that. It's not like people are seeking to label others as immature, as you make it out to be. I was speaking with Rio earlier on this, and we'd certainly rather see users learn from conflicts and come to a state of being agreeable with the community. Like I said, you have to earn the respect. And please stop making assumptions, we'd all appreciate it and that could be a good start. I couldn't decide whether to sarcastically clap, laugh hysterically, or slam my head into the wall. So I did all three.

This is rediculous. I'll only respond to some things you say in this. First off, I really don't care what this place thinks of me anymore, this place is gone down the drain from when I first joined. Not gonna even go into second. I don't find this place worth investing time in, it is full of innuendo, unfairness, bad examples, etc. As to the subject of maturity, work on it yourself sometime. You participate in a lot of innuendo, and I report a lot of your posts on the MBs. I also don't need the respect of an online community which has no impact in my real life whatsoever. I get enough respect in my church, college, community, and across the country in the places I visit. One insignificant little web site throwing hate on me doesn't tip the scales in the other way.

Well, anyway, there's not much more I can say, or need to say, or want to say. Bai

=l If you don't care what people here think of you, why try so diligently to express your beliefs, heritage, or whatever it is you present? Don't see the point in that.

Well, it's apparently been something for you to invest a lot of time into creating disruption; couldn't you have instead used that time to converse among the community peaceably? And as for innuendo, it's dramatically decreased thanks to our moderation team cracking down on it and there is basically none of it. The "unfairness" is basically your disdain for the decisions of the admins and the community, nothing more and nothing less.

Attempting to shift the blame onto someone else is one of the biggest signs of immaturity, ironically. Yes, I have participated in making innuendo in the past, for which I have received multiple bans. As for the brief string of inside jokes on the boards, I have ceased from that as well; no need to spit degrading comments upon those with whom you are conversing.. Let my example be a lesson that you are fully capable of changing from a negative and disruptive reputation on this wiki; not trying to boast, but several users have stated that I've definintely changed for the better and I hope you can do that too.

Sorry to be blunt, but if you lack desire to be contributive and respected around here, then please leave. Your statements such as "I don't need the respect of [this wiki]", "[this wiki] has no impact in my life", and "I really don't care what this place thinks of me anymore" simply back up your lack of potential to improve. I and many others indeed hope for you to change your conduct, but if this is impossible for you then either leave, or bear with the majority of the community wanting you gone. And please don't extract any personal offense through this. Like I've stated many times, I wish for you to change and remain among us. I'm simply passing on the same type of advice other users provided for me several months ago.