User blog comment:GuacamoleCCXR/An Epilogue by Aravis/@comment-7855039-20140717065318

I ususally don't get involved in these things, but uh, ya know. Here we go.

I usually don't get involved in these things because they're pointless. Pointless! This "argument" started on chat because multiple users disagreed about why a user does not watch a certain television program, and then flung at high-speed into multiple users madly insulting each other's personality, who they are, and a list of other things. Because of this, multiple users were left upset, multiple users confused, a user left, a user got banned, and a large group of users took sides. What fun.

^ There are multiple things wrong with this, and it most definitely could have been avoided.

The coversation should have stayed on topic, and if a disagreement came up (which it did) it should only had been that topic. If you're going to debate about why one user does not watch a certain television program, debate about why that one user does not watch the television program. But, the situation got out of hand and launched into something entirely new, which I described above. In NO way does a disagreement over a television show need to turn into what it did.

•This is mainly directed to Aravis, Guac, and co.:• If you disagree on why that user watches the tv show, and you decide to 'debate it out', you don't need to insult that user's recent history and personality. If you are not a fan of their recent history and personality, just keep your trap shut. In no way will you solve the problem by communicating to them in a way they will find negative. If you KNOW a user is going to get insulted, and you (though you might not have been TRYING to insult them) accidentally insult them, DO NOT CONTINUE ARGUING WITH THEM, at least for a small bit of time. I'm not the smartest guy around, but, listen to this: Pretend you punch somebody - though it wasn't meant to harm. Pretend it does harm that person, and it makes them angry, which therefore makes them decide to punch you back. What should you do after their punch-back? NOTHING. DO NOT PUNCH THEM BACK. You did something wrong, and it could have been avoided.

•This is mainly directed to Le Beater and co.:• You jumped to some major conclusions. Aravis/Guac were not, at least not initially, bashing on you, and you assumed they were. They weren't attempting to bash you. But, nonetheless, you assumed they were. It is partly understandble why you got upset, but you overreacted. You got mad easily when you shouldn't have. Though you didn't raise your temper completely, which is good, you should have understood that you overreacted. There was no need to jump to conclusions. It should be noted that a lot of people don't understand your feelings. You claim no one understands them, but how is that their fault? Just because we don't understand your feelings doesn't mean you should get "off the hook." You didn't respond in the right way, but you didn't. You assumed Aravis/Guac's 'punch' was harmful, and then you punched them back. You shouldn't have. DO NOT PUNCH THEM BACK. And if you do, and then they punch-back your punch-back, you should have just walked away. As should have they.

•This is directed towards everyone:• The above metaphor (simile? no. metaphor.) about the punching and punch-backs and such is a metaphor to what happened on chat. As you should know by now, Aravis and Guacamole informed the opposite party that why they don't watch MLP is not good a reason. Though (they claim) it was meant to be an insult, it still inflicted harm (Le Beater stated that Aravis and Guac were bashing him). The person harmed got offended (As I informed you above, Le Beater stated Aravis and Guac were bashing him), and from there, both parties started insulting each other (See the log for proof of all of this information).

(continued) Both parties can argue that the other started it, that the other took it too far, that the other misinterpreted something, but that doesn't matter anymore once harm has been inflicted: ''The best move is for everyone is to just stop and walk away, and as mentioned above, to stop agruing; both parties continued to disparage and insult, and be overall very rude. This is wrong.'' Both parties can argue that the other dragged it on, that the other was the reason it got out of handed, but really, it's both your faults.

•This is mainly directed to Aravis, Guac, and co.:• The person who didn't-mean-to-inflict-harm-by-throwing-the-punch, aka Aravis Tarkheena/Guac: You inflicted harm. Though you may not have meant to (according to you), you did. And, you should have stopped fighting, but you didn't. Even though the other party may have thrown you a punch back, you should just stop, and walk away. It's the best move - but you made a mistake but just completely dropping the gloves and fighting it out.

•This is mainly directed to Aravis, Guac, and co.:•The person-who-assumed-the-punch-was-harmful, aka Le Beater: Even though the other party thew a punch, they meant no harm. But yet, you took it as harmful. Two things: a) You should not have taken it as harmful, but you did, which is partly understandable. b) You should not have "punched back" (saying you were being bashed and later stating that 'little Aravis decided to whine'). You should have walked away.

Now, I'm going to be a little less professional here:

Rys, Vis, Guac, whoever: Come on, guys. What happened here. Shut up, sit up, apoligize, and move on. You both acted wrongly and unmorally and you definitely messed up.

Rys, I like you, you're funny (ish :P ), but you need to get a grip: this is the internet, and people will say a lot of stuff. Sometimes you need to ignore what they say and just move on, and not judge them for it later. I know sometimes it feels like everyone has to attack you, and yeah, it sucks to feel that way. But, you can fix this, but ignoring what people say and stop jumping to conclusions. If other people don't agree with you, eh, so be it, unless like, you worship Satin and people disagree with you. Then there's a problem. xP But other than that, you're a unique kid. You kinda have to accept that people are gonna hate, and you have to accept that. But! - You can't accept that everyone is hating on you. Often times, people are not hating on it, but you assume they are (not always, but.) This then makes /that/ person upset, and then, the whole thing explodes. Now with the current situation, no one was bashing you. Yes, Aravis/Guac did, later. But not initially. It coulda been avoided, man. Just keep being you, brah, and try to improve in /when/ people are really 'bashing you.' so yeah. :P

Aravis/Guac, (I guess you're one person now :P ), I like you guys, too. But did you have to go saying stuff about Rys and how he's "...ruining SO MUCH because he's moody..."? Despite previous interactions, you did not need to bring up how you think Rys acts and stuff. I understand that you think he says stuff that makes chat less desirable... but did you have to bring it up when you were just talking about MLP? Seriously guys, you should have kept your traps shut. Saying more and more stuff about Rys is bad because of x, y, and z doesn't help anything. You know that. Aravis, you kinda ragequitted there. You know better. You are not representing yourself in a proper way and as a person with rights on this wiki, you didn't really do your job.. right. :P Vis, you're awesome, it's just like, blah - sometimes, you need to keep your opinions about people inside. It doesn't help the issue to spurt it out. Guac, same deal, my European-friend :P : It's best to keep opinions inside, sometimes. Not your best move. You should have walked away, as should have Aravis, and Rys. You also have rights on this wiki and you should have used 'em bettah.

All in all, shut up, sit up, REALIZE YOU ALL DID WRONG, and move on. I'm not a fan of hate and fights and controversy and I tried to stay away. But I just couldn't stand it no 'mo. Y'all messed up. Apoligize. Move on. Like c'mon, what are we even fighting about, right? :P

I know this is going to sound ironic, but please, everyone reading this, just smile. This isn't a very happy situation, and it would best if we just, like, smiled and moved on (I say its ironic because I just wrote a very large post that was mostly serious and intense.) Just like, smile. Really. Aravis, Guac, Rys, LDC, admins, Sansse, EVERYONE. Just like smile and just like be happy and stuff. Y'all messed up, Rys/Guac/Aravis/admins/people on either "side"/whoever.

Aravis, Guac, and Rys: Fix this thing, guys. It's not hard. :P Apoligize, realize you're wrong, smile. Bam. Done. Don't judge each other. Just let it go, as Batty says below. In my opinion, y'all are friggin' awesome people. I don't want your awesomeness to disappear.

Welp, that is all. Please respond with thoughts/response/criticism. If you agree with the majority of this post a quick "Per" would be appreciated. If not, I'm happy to respond to comments, and/or to clarify things. I hope we can all move on and forget about this all, and just realize that we all messed up and were wrong. Laugh. Smile. Be happy. Thanks, guys. =D

-harry