Thread:Drew1200/@comment-25282327-20141019033227/@comment-5311834-20141020025239

Drew1200 wrote: You did a good job, Neh. I wouldn't have used the term "dingus", but other than that, you and Goggles did do very well. Like many of the users in the log said, a warning may have been more appropriate than a kick, but that's entirely up to the moderator at the time. Really, the only reason I would choose to use a warning over a kick is because it's less disruptive to chat. Aside from that, I see a very minimal difference between the two.

To be perfectly honest, I'm quite surprised to see how Mad handled this. I'm completely fine with those kicks, but I would have also been fine if you had chosen to not make them. I agree that what LDC said was deserving of some form of a warning, which I would have definitely done if I was the moderator. But if you had chosen not to warn, it wouldn't have been a big deal. But the ban was completely and entirely warranted. So much so, that I've decided to "redo" the ban. It may have no effect at all if he chooses not to log on for another 2 hours, but it was wrong of Mad to undo that. I felt the ban was far from warranted. It could have been kickworthy, but unfortunately didn't think a ban was appropriate at all.

In case, for some reason, you'd need me to explain why the ban was necessary, all's you need to do is read our personal attack policy. "I want to slap you so hard right now, Neph" - and he proceeded to say the same for two other users as well. I don't know how you could interpret that as anything aside from a strong personal attack. Then what really gets me is that Mad said "H ewas joking". Mad, being that you're an admin, I'm going to assume you've read our policy, which means I don't have to link you to the specific part where it says that claiming a personal attack as a joke does not justify it or make it any more acceptable. I'm fully aware of that part of the policy, but I fail to see how stating you want to slap someone is a personal attack. It's immature, and could be deserving of a kick depending on the context, but he was not personally insulting them.

Also, I know this isn't an official policy or anything, but this is just the general, unwritten rule that I and many other admins go by. If you're willing to undo a ban made by a moderator, especially one as small as two hours, then you better be ready to propose a demotion over abuse of rights. Otherwise, it isn't a big enough deal that you should be using your authority to override another privileged user.

Overall, Neh, I'd say you and Goggles handled the situation pretty well. Thank you for continuing to try and be a good moderator even when others are telling you that you're not. I'm not going to argue your decision to reban him or anything, but my feelings on this remains the same.