Thread:Alemas2005/@comment-25235928-20160812013307/@comment-5643582-20160814063458

Wolfasa wrote: Avalair wrote: I would just like to show you something from this log: [09:53]  I know the rules [09:53]  i'd let it pass if it was someone new but you're breaking them on purpose [09:53]  But given that the rules are dumba** rules, I elect to ignore them Why would we want a user like that on our chat when it's very clear their only purpose is to ignore the rules? We don't. And Wolf has displayed behavior like this ever since he joined. Sure, he does participate in debates sometimes, I know, I have witnessed them myself and Wolfasa has shown he can be mature but Wolfasa also has shown, and frequently shows, that sometimes he comes on chat with the sole purpose of trolling. Remember just two months ago (maybe even within the last month) the night chat situations, which honestly he should've been banned for but it was a big miscommunication. I even warned him twice that he should be more careful or a long ban would be waiting for him. And I'm sorry but that statement up there just showed me that Wolfasa took those warnings and burned them in front of me. The admins did vote on your ban, and we voted 6 months, and I can't say it was unanimous because some even voted for a permaban. The only thing we could do is hold an admin re-vote, which I am not opposed to, but the turnout may just equal a longer block considering the message you left on my wall containing profanity.

Your "ban record argument."

I know you have only been banned once in the past year, which I am proud of you for, but if we had taken action during the night chat situation, that ban record would be filled with another one or two bans. I'm not quite sure why we're using your ban record as an argument, but just know I'm not and your ban record did not have a say in my vote at least. I cannot speak for the others.

The argument pertaining to nya:

Assuming that is who you are referring to, Apple, yes we know what nya did and honestly I would consider what she did to be even worse than what Wolf did. However, her case is different from wolf's as she has only been a user for a few months as compared to wolf's few years. She has never been banned, and actually the admins have been discussing a ban for her, but then the block vote was made so we kind of had to put that to a halt until the turnout of the block vote. But just know we will be taking action, it may be a little different than wolf's, in fact her ban/block may even be longer, but just know that we are discussing her and we will be taking action as we see appropriate.

I'm sorry if you are disappointed in your ban Wolfasa, but honestly I am disappointed in your behavior. I thought you were better than that... We, as admins, are here to make sure that chat and the wiki as a whole is a fun and welcoming place for all users and behavior like that which was displayed makes for an uncomfortable and tense enviroment. We hope you will come back after your ban learning how to respect people. And I'll have you know, the rules which you broke that you "elected to ignore" were put into place by the community. Once again, we could hold a re-vote but that may just make things worse. I'm not going to lock this thread, but if comments get hostile action will be taken. Thank you for actually responding to me. =P

"their only purpose is to ignore the rules"

Wow. Just wow. I give up. I'm clearly not wanted here. You're saying the only two things I have ever done on LMBW are either troll, or get into religious debates. That is all that I have done in this community, for the years that I have been here?

Bringing up the night chat is ridiculous. Two admins were actively talking to me in both situations, and neither of them, both of the times, said what I did was punishable. I was then retroactively warned by you. There is obviously a very giant discord in the admin team's handling of situations. Don't lay all of the blame on me, as if you have never messed up.

I've broken the rules in a punishable way only twice in the past year, stop branding me as some hateful, toxic user. I've been a largely nice, helpful, talkative member of this community for the past year, but apparently none of that matters in the eyes of the admin team.

"We hope you will come back from your ban how to respect people." Not even gonna bother to address the respect part of your statement. But as for me coming back, I doubt it. Congratulations if you've secretly wanted me to leave. Wolf, I as an admin was a part of your ban as well, but I have no desire for you to leave, I do really enjoy your company and respect you, but you have displayed a lot of unsavory behavior towards certain users and the rules in general, I'm willing to negotiate on a shortening of a ban personally, not sure if the other admins are willing as well.