User blog comment:RePeat/Community Poll on Message Walls/@comment-7855039-20130627034219/@comment-4845243-20130630011456

Harold:

Well, now you're just confusing me. I quote:

This very conversation between you and me, Obi, IS ON A MESSAGE WALL

Since this conversation is via blog comments, I construed this as you equating the two.

To be honest, I thought it was obvious that I was not responding to all of your points specifically. All of them either 1) did not apply when looking at the debate in context and were refuting points I didn't make (and thus were part of the straw man) or 2) were off the main topic, and thus I didn't respond because I didn't have very much time.

So, I'm not sure why you're attacking me about this. Also, you still seem confused about the straw man fallacy. Here are a few points on that:


 * people cannot be fallacies
 * ignoring someone's points is not a straw man fallacy
 * a straw man fallacy occurs when a debater refutes a point his opponent didn't make

Now, I certainly did not commit this fallacy. I was not even making a point in relation to the specifics of the argument, but in relation to the structure thereof.

Also, I'm not too pleased with the way you're resorting to tu quoque and ad hominems. If you want to be a credible debater, avoid that kind of form. Saying that someone is "better than that" is very poor argumentation.

Now that I have more time, let me address the two points that were separate from the straw man:

I will now address your point about the "right to privacy". Now, I am in agreement that we have such a right at least on certain levels. But to contend that this means your conversations cannot be read is something I do not agree with. Can you give me an argument for this specific aspect of the right to privacy, and how we are entitled to it?

Now the point about diff buttons. The people who go around reading conversations most certainly know about the diff button. And if there is a motivation for reading the conversation, then they will find a way whether it is a message wall or talk pages.