User:Slicer Vorzakh/ChatLogs/8 June 2016

 [04:58]  Also sorry for AFK, I was responding to Madkat [04:58]  She's active today for the first time in about two weeks [04:59]  I see [04:59]  ZX isn't part of the five for the same reasons as Madbae, he's been busy with offline stuff, work and all [04:59]  He posts about a couple of times a week usually but less often as of late [05:00]  As for Loney, I feel like while he's kind on the surface, he's too apathetic. It's fine, we were never that close anyway I guess. [05:01]  Hmm lemme see, who else [05:02]  o/ [05:02]  Oh hey Rio [05:03]  o/ [05:04]  Keplers and I used to be friends [05:04]  Now I'm not sure but we do get along I guess [05:05]  I like to think that if I talk to him more often and stuff, he and I might be friends again but idk [05:05]  Im not ur frend (derp) [05:06]  Nick, you are not helping (yk) [05:06] <Person of Info> Me neither (derp) [05:06] <Person of Info> THe feeling is mutual (derp) [05:06] <The Peglegged Ninja> If I considered helping, I would've said nothing [05:07] <The Peglegged Ninja> True friends are near-impossible to come by when contained solely within an online chat. [05:07] <HyperFlash Studios> (yk) [05:07] <Person of Info> Not neccessarily [05:07] <Person of Info> But I guess it's less likely with people who see online people as less real [05:07] <Person of Info> Which is a lot of people [05:08] <The Peglegged Ninja> Yes, necessarily. If you only ever interact with a person in an online chat, it's not fitting to say that person is a true friend. [05:08] <Person of Info> Not really [05:08] <Person of Info> *Not necessarily [05:09] <Person of Info> You don't need to have physical contact with anyone to be true friends with the, [05:09] <Person of Info> *them [05:09] <The Peglegged Ninja> Yes, necessarily. When hidden behind nothing but text, your "friend" could turn out to be any number of things. [05:10] <The Peglegged Ninja> Including bad things. [05:10] <The Peglegged Ninja> Ramp it up to other means of communication, where the person can become real. [05:10] <The Peglegged Ninja> *becomes* real. [05:11] <The Peglegged Ninja> Then the door to true friendship will be opened further. [05:14] <Person of Info> A "friend" not really being a true friend and only pretending to be one is not sometihng that's specific to online friends, offline friends are just as likely to be guilty of this, as I've witnessed. It's not necessarily other means of communication than make someone more "real", multiple means of communication are not what make them more "real', t's more along the lines of the thoughts, ideas and emotions that you communicate to each other, and the bond of trust and love that you form that makes it real regardless of how you communicate. [05:23] <The Peglegged Ninja> And then you find out one day that you've been fooled all along by an old man living in a trailer. [05:24] <The Peglegged Ninja> Because you've never actually seen or heard this "friend" beyond a wall of text. [05:24] <Person of Info> You can be just as easily fooled by people offline, there is little difference. [05:24] <The Peglegged Ninja> You've defeated your own argument, then. [05:25] <Person of Info> How so? [05:25] <The Peglegged Ninja> Because if a person is a true friend, there would be no fooling involved. [05:25] <HyperFlash Studios> oh boy [05:25] <HyperFlash Studios> What's going on now? [05:25] <The Peglegged Ninja> Please note my use of the word "true" [05:25] <Person of Info> I don't think we're talking about the same thing [05:27] <Person of Info> Just because someone is an offline friend does not mean there's no risk of them not being a true friend [05:27] <Person of Info> The risk always exists regardless of whether it's offline or online. [05:27] <The Peglegged Ninja> Henceforth, that person was never a true friend. [05:27] <The Peglegged Ninja> Obviously.' [05:27] <Person of Info> And you can never know for sure if someone is a true friend or not because you can't read people's minds. [05:27] <The Peglegged Ninja> Which is why it's impossible when confined to an online chat. [05:27] <Person of Info> It's not possible even in offline situations. [05:28] <The Peglegged Ninja> A true friend is not a robot who's thoughts you can read. [05:28] <The Peglegged Ninja> You're going to disagree [05:28] <The Peglegged Ninja> But you know that person well. You know who they are, and they know who you are. There is no facade to be found in true friendship. [05:29] <Person of Info> Humans are innately liars. They only perceive that there is no facade. [05:29] <Person of Info> True friendship is an illusion where a party thinks the other party has no facade. [05:29] <Person of Info> You can never be fully certain that the other person is not hiding or pretending to be anything. [05:30] <The Peglegged Ninja> We all have our secrets. [05:30] <The Peglegged Ninja> But true friends become lifelong pals. [05:31] <The Peglegged Ninja> True friendship is no illusion. It's a bond. [05:31] <The Peglegged Ninja> And true friends can lie to each other, and fight with each other. But they'll bounce back. [05:32] <The Peglegged Ninja> Unless one critically betrays the other. [05:34] <Person of Info> So I suppose true friendship is a state where two parties think the other is trustworthy and admirable to a high enough degree and that any lies and secrets they think the other may have will not be enough to damage the friendship. [05:34] <The Peglegged Ninja> Hm. I find myself slightly disagreeing with my own words. [05:34] <The Peglegged Ninja> Yeah, pretty much I guess. [05:34] <Person of Info> How so? [05:34] <Person of Info> Hmmm [05:35] <Person of Info> Well I suppose I can see part of your original point now [05:35] <Person of Info> I don't completely agree with it, but I understand where you're coming from. [05:36] <The Peglegged Ninja> I actually believe that true friendship can exist, but upon further thought, I realize that various circumstances can unexpectedly erupt to terminate that friendship [05:36] <The Peglegged Ninja> Nobody's perfect, as you mention. [05:37] <The Peglegged Ninja> Even if that friendship was true. [05:38] <Person of Info> I realise it can, under the conditions I defined earlier. You just dont' always know when and which circumstances may arise to end things. [05:38] <Person of Info> Indeed so. [05:40] <The Peglegged Ninja> Moral: friends are dangerous. Best not make any. :P [05:41] <Person of Info> Uh I think we should still make them, but we need to make ourselves ready in case they do betray us :P [05:41] <HyperFlash Studios> I was worried the conversation might end like that (yk) [05:41] <Person of Info> Friends help give you stability and support [05:41] <Person of Info> But [05:41] <Person of Info> You must still be on your guard :{P [05:41] <Person of Info> But if the risk is too great, then don't make any. (derp) [05:41] <The Peglegged Ninja> I wuz joke (derp2) [05:42] <The Peglegged Ninja> :P [05:42] <Person of Info> Course you were (derp) [05:42] <The Peglegged Ninja> I have friends. Loads of friends! (derp) [05:42] <The Peglegged Ninja> So many friends... (gasp) [05:42] <Person of Info> Of course you do (derp) [05:43] <Person of Info> More friends than there are people in America (derp3) [05:43] <The Peglegged Ninja> So... many... (derp3) [05:43] <HyperFlash Studios> wait what (Derp) [05:43] <HyperFlash Studios> There are a lot of people in America (Derp) [05:43] <HyperFlash Studios> o/ [05:43] <The Peglegged Ninja> I am friends with more people than are on the eart [05:43] <The Peglegged Ninja> MC in da house [05:44] <Person of Info> Wow you have over 7 billion friends? o: [05:46] <The Peglegged Ninja> 7 billion friends? That's hardly any. [05:46] <The Peglegged Ninja> I've got way more. [05:46] <The Peglegged Ninja> So many, I can't count them on my fingers. (derp) [05:47] <HyperFlash Studios> *implying that you have a ridiculously huge amount of fingers* [05:47] <HyperFlash Studios> (derp) [05:48] <The Peglegged Ninja> No. Implying I have more than 10. (derp4) [05:53] <Person of Info> Oh? (derp4) [05:54] <Person of Info> Are you Cthulu? (derp) [05:54] <Person of Info> No wait not enough fingers [05:54] <Person of Info> You must be one of the other Great Old Ones (derp) [05:55] <The Peglegged Ninja> I am Stanford Pines. 12 fingers. :P [05:58] <HyperFlash Studios> testing testing 123 [05:58] <HyperFlash Studios> test2 [05:58] <HyperFlash Studios> Interesting [05:58] <Person of Info> Stanford Pines?? (gasp) [05:58] <Person of Info> Never heard of ya :{P [05:59] <Person of Info> Oh he's gone [05:59] <Person of Info> Coward (ud) [05:59] <HyperFlash Studios> gg [05:59] <Person of Info> IKR