User:Obi the LEGO Fan/Chat/Logs/2 January 2015

 [06:30]  chathacks [06:30]  (derp) [06:30]  I LIKED the deviations from the book, they were interesting, and people shouldn't hate on them so much. :c [06:30]  no [06:31]  the book was a fun adventure [06:31]  So was the movie. :p [06:31]  this is just trying to be an epic saga all over again [06:31]  I mean a clear option that a mod/admin could use @tone for all of chat [06:31]  I finished Wolfenstein. It's a very sad game. [06:31]  Oh yeah [06:31]  i need to get that game [06:31]  Sorry Von, they bug me... Because they are so wrong from how Tolkien intended the book to be. :P [06:31]  okay I'm back [06:31]  WB Obi o/ [06:31]  o/ [06:31] <Obi the LEGO Fan> my internet died [06:31] <Obi the LEGO Fan> :P [06:31] <ToneTyphoon> Orcs..... weren't...... freakin...... there :P [06:31] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Um what? [06:32] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Orcs weren't where? :P [06:32] <Vonness11`> Where? [06:32] <ToneTyphoon> In that part in the first movie :P [06:32] <Vonness11`> There were a LOT of orcs in the battle of five arm- oh [06:32] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Oh [06:32] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> It made me so glad I live in the universe in which the Germans lost miserably [06:32] <Obi the LEGO Fan> The Hobbit was a lot different than the books, but I didn't expect it to be the same so I wasn't disappointed [06:32] <Obi the LEGO Fan> *book [06:33] <ToneTyphoon> I wasn't disappointed, but I like the book better [06:33] <ToneTyphoon> Movie was just entertaining [06:33] <Legofrodo12> Per Tone and Obi. [06:33] <ToneTyphoon> though I still haven't seen the last one [06:33] <Vonness11`> The only thing that bugged me was no goblins singing while burning the trees in the first movie. &gt;:c [06:33] <ToneTyphoon> Yeah, they made it the orcs [06:33] <ToneTyphoon> cause orc [06:34] <ToneTyphoon> *Orcs [06:34] <Legofrodo12> XD That would be what bugged you, Von. xD [06:34] <Obi the LEGO Fan> oh yeah [06:34] <Obi the LEGO Fan> the biggest thing that bugged me was the fact that some of the dwarves had short beards [06:34] <Legofrodo12> Orcs=goblins, in the books. [06:34] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Dwarves do not shave [06:34] <Vonness11`> Kili had like no beard :p [06:34] <Obi the LEGO Fan> It's a blessing to say "may your beard grow ever longer" [06:34] <Legofrodo12> And Dwarves aren't Scotch. :P [06:34] <Riolu777> They aren't whiskey either. [06:34] <Legofrodo12> Or rude... :P [06:34] <Legofrodo12> Rio xD [06:34] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Some dwarves are rude :p [06:34] <Vonness11`> "dwarves aren't rude" [06:34] <Vonness11`> .... (yk) [06:34] <ToneTyphoon> since when Fro? :P [06:35] <Obi the LEGO Fan> I loved Balin in the movie (xd) [06:35] <Vonness11`> also I always imagine dwarves with scottish accents so it fit for me (derp) [06:35] <Vonness11`> YES [06:35] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Balin is my fave character [06:36] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Legofrodo: have you read the Silmarillion? [06:36] <Legofrodo12> I meant that Durin's folk aren't a bunch of rabble. They are noble, and proud, but not ones to yell "Buggers". [06:36] <Vonness11`> I wish Bombur had fallen into the lake and whined about wanting to sleep, but that's not a big problem. :p [06:36] <Riolu777> It irked me somewhat that it felt like Tauriel was in the movies only to be a female character amidst the mass maleness and to be a romantic pawn. [06:36] <Legofrodo12> Yes Obi, four times, and I got it for Christmas! [06:36] <ToneTyphoon> nerrd [06:36] <Legofrodo12> And Balin is awesome. [06:36] <Legofrodo12> I know, me too, Rio. [06:36] <Legofrodo12> And proud of it, Tone. xD [06:36] <ToneTyphoon> That's why she was in the movie [06:37] <ToneTyphoon> come on now [06:37] <ToneTyphoon> :P [06:37] <Riolu777> And it was obvious, Tone, as you have just expressed. :P [06:37] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Wow, four times? [06:37] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Nice [06:37] <Obi the LEGO Fan> I've only read it once [06:37] <Vonness11`> does anyone else find it funny that Bombur's beard looks like a giant onion ring :{P [06:37] <Legofrodo12> Yeah.... Like I said, I'm obsessed. xD [06:37] <Riolu777> I read it once several years ago. [06:37] <Obi the LEGO Fan> I actually liked Tauriel, but yeah, that was why she was in the movie [06:38] <Riolu777> I forget books quickly, though. :L [06:38] <Obi the LEGO Fan> down with patriarchy [06:38] <Riolu777> yas [06:38] <Riolu777> do all the revolutions [06:38] <Legofrodo12> Tauriel wasn't bad, but the whole love triangle thing was weird. :P [06:39] <Vonness11`> For most dwarves "May your beard grow ever longer" would be a compliment. But to Kili, everyone says "May your beard grow." [06:39] <Riolu777> Legolas didn't like her. :P [06:39] <Legofrodo12> Marc o/ [06:39] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Lol, Von [06:39] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Marcel o/ [06:39] <Legofrodo12> Von, that's amazing. xD [06:39] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Yeah, the love triangle was contrived [06:39] <Legofrodo12> Yeah... :P [06:39] <Legofrodo12> Not exactly convincing, either. :P [06:40] <Riolu777> The highlights were Smaug talking and Thranduil. [06:40] <Harold89> for years i have told people 'seven' would be a cool name [06:40] <Harold89> and then someone on reddit says it [06:40] <Vonness11`> For years people have told you "Harry, you're bonkers." [06:40] <Riolu777> Eight would be cooler. [06:40] <Legofrodo12> I LOVED Smaug's design... But did anyone else notice he couldn't smell? :P [06:40] <Harold89> and gets 2k upvotes D:&lt; [06:40] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Smaug's voice (blockface) [06:41] <Obi the LEGO Fan> He could smell [06:41] <ToneTyphoon> Harold, there was a character in Charlie Brown named seven [06:41] <ToneTyphoon> Or maybe it was 5 [06:41] <Obi the LEGO Fan> he smelled Bilo [06:41] <Harold89> what tone [06:41] <Obi the LEGO Fan> *Bilbo [06:41] <ToneTyphoon> so, yeah, it was done before you were born :P [06:41] <Legofrodo12> He didn't use it though, when he was searching for the Dwarves and Bilbo (In the movie, not the book) [06:41] <Riolu777> There's a clone trooper in Clone Wars named Fives. :P [06:41] <Harold89> oh yeah you are right tone :P [06:41] <ToneTyphoon> Good old Fives :P [06:42] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Didn't Fives die? [06:42] <Obi the LEGO Fan> :P [06:42] <FortressOfNight> ;-; [06:42] <Riolu777> Yeah. :P [06:42] <FortressOfNight> all those guys died [06:42] <Obi the LEGO Fan> :( [06:42] <Obi the LEGO Fan> I died too, but at least I'm a force ghost [06:42] <FortressOfNight> hevy died on the rishi moon, echo died at that fortress place, and fives died trying to tell people about the order 66 chip thing [06:43] <ToneTyphoon> and more powerful than we could ever imagine [06:43] <FortressOfNight> iirc [06:43] <ToneTyphoon> Yeah [06:43] <ToneTyphoon> when fives died...... [06:43] <ToneTyphoon> man [06:43] <Riolu777> The whole Clones Wars upset me somewhat because it felt pointless to have character development for the clones and various Jedi because they would die or turn bad in a quick montage in III. [06:43] <ToneTyphoon> I mean, I knew he had to but man [06:43] <FortressOfNight> the clone wars was kinda derpy [06:43] <Riolu777> Maybe that's the canon's fault. :P [06:43] <ToneTyphoon> Hey, it was cool :P [06:44] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Rio: Cad Bane made the clone wars worth watching [06:44] <FortressOfNight> it was sometimes really lacking suspense because you KNOW obi-wan or anakin or whoever had to survive [06:44] <Riolu777> It was cool, way better than Rebels. [06:44] <ToneTyphoon> Well yeah, but it was still fun [06:44] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Although Ashoka could have died :p [06:44] <ToneTyphoon> I still haven't watched Rebels [06:44] <ToneTyphoon> No one cared Obes :P [06:44] <Obi the LEGO Fan> :P [06:44] <Legofrodo12> She did though, didn't she? Then came back, right? :P [06:44] <ToneTyphoon> wut? [06:44] <ToneTyphoon> Oh yeah [06:44] <Riolu777> Ahsoka was the most disappointing. She just walks away and there's no explanation for her. [06:44] <FortressOfNight> and other times it seemed weird to think "so... we have years worth of character development showing cody as fiercely loyal to obi-wan and he'll just be like "lol k" when palpatine asks him to shoot a freakin artillery gun at him later? [06:45] <ToneTyphoon> Yeah Fro you're right [06:45] <Legofrodo12> XD Fort xD [06:45] <ToneTyphoon> It was the whole thing with the Father, the Daughter, and the Son [06:45] <FortressOfNight> i would've liked it if ahsoka died [06:45] <Riolu777> AND TO THIS DAY I AM STILL SO PEEVED AT HOW THEY CONVICT BARRISS AND THEN SHE APPEARS AT LUMINARA'S SIDE IN GEONOSIS IN III [06:45] <ToneTyphoon> :P [06:45] <Legofrodo12> XD [06:45] <Obi the LEGO Fan> lol [06:45] <FortressOfNight> like, an actual developed character dying? yes pls [06:45] <Obi the LEGO Fan> plot holes [06:45] <ToneTyphoon> yeah, the Bariss thing was [06:45] <FortressOfNight> but... she doesn't, rio? [06:45] <ToneTyphoon> like, no [06:45] <ToneTyphoon> :P [06:46] <FortressOfNight> geonosis is in ii, not iii [06:46] <ToneTyphoon> ^ [06:46] <ToneTyphoon> :P [06:46] <Riolu777> Doesn't she what? :P [06:46] <ToneTyphoon> she's not in 3 :P P [06:46] <Vonness11`> wait yeah she's not [06:46] <FortressOfNight> yeah she's not :P [06:46] <Riolu777> Oh wait, not Geonosis. I mean she appears in that but it's one scene in III too. [06:46] <Vonness11`> that was someone else [06:46] <Riolu777> I thought she was in III. :P [06:46] <ToneTyphoon> I honestly don't remember her in III :P [06:46] <FortressOfNight> i did hate the whole "bariss is bad now" thing. [06:46] <ToneTyphoon> ^ [06:47] <FortressOfNight> it's like they needed a somewhat developed character to turn bad [06:47] <Riolu777> And in the end she was right anyway. :P [06:47] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Dooku and Anakin already did that [06:47] <FortressOfNight> so they're like "we had a few episodes with bariss let's make her turn bad for no tangible reason" [06:47] <ToneTyphoon> I mean, if they'd shown it develop it would have worked cause the logic was in line with how she thought [06:47] <ToneTyphoon> but they didn't [06:48] <FortressOfNight> yeah [06:48] <ToneTyphoon> Boba Fett episodes though [06:48] <ToneTyphoon> they kinda retconned the whole Republic Commando books too :P [06:48] <Legofrodo12> Boba Fett is da bomb, in my opinion. :P [06:48] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Cad Bane is better [06:48] <ToneTyphoon> No [06:48] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Yes [06:49] <ToneTyphoon> Boba reigns supreme :| [06:49] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Humans are overrated [06:49] <Vonness11`> I prefer Pre Viszla or however you spell his name [06:49] <ToneTyphoon> You got it right actually [06:49] <ToneTyphoon> :P [06:49] <Vonness11`> good :p [06:50] <ToneTyphoon> And the Weequay pirates [06:50] <ToneTyphoon> oh man, those guys :P [06:50] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Oh yeah :p [06:50] <ToneTyphoon> I forget the captain's name, but man :P [06:50] <Legofrodo12> Cad Bane is blue. Boba Fett is not. Boba Fett wins. (bf) [06:50] <ToneTyphoon> :P [06:50] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Uh, no [06:50] <Obi the LEGO Fan> You need to be racially inclusive :| [06:50] <ToneTyphoon> Um, Boba has a jetpack [06:50] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Cad Bane has rocket boots [06:50] <Legofrodo12> XD [06:50] <ToneTyphoon> total win right there [06:50] <FortressOfNight> canonically, sev and boss exist, as well as two unnamed delta squad commandos. [06:50] <ToneTyphoon> Yeah, I know Fort [06:51] <ToneTyphoon> Just the books are retconned [06:51] <FortressOfNight> yeah [06:51] <Vonness11`> isn't the captain's name Hondo Ohnaka or something :p [06:51] <Legofrodo12> Jet pack is better. (bf) And Bobs has a flame thrower. (bf) [06:51] <FortressOfNight> so technically... no scorch ;-; [06:51] <ToneTyphoon> YEAH [06:51] <ToneTyphoon> that's it [06:51] <ToneTyphoon> @Von [06:51] <Legofrodo12> Yes, it is Von. [06:51] <ToneTyphoon> Yeah... scorch....... :( [06:51] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Yes, Von [06:51] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Hondo [06:51] <ToneTyphoon> buddy :( [06:51] <Obi the LEGO Fan> that rascal :P [06:51] <FortressOfNight> and no omega squad ;-; [06:51] <ToneTyphoon> I didn't like them (as) [06:51] <Vonness11`> my favorite bounty hunter is definitely Bane tho [06:52] <Obi the LEGO Fan> ^^ [06:52] <Ihaveawiixboxds> ^ [06:52] <Ihaveawiixboxds> Cad Bane is the best. [06:52] <Legofrodo12> Boba Fett has a bigger fanbase. :P [06:52] <FortressOfNight> tone :| [06:52] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Cad Bane proves that you don't need powers or even a lot of physical strength to be dangerous [06:52] <Ihaveawiixboxds> I also really like Embo, though. [06:52] <Obi the LEGO Fan> you just need your wits [06:52] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Embo is cool too [06:53] <ToneTyphoon> Fort (as) [06:53] <Obi the LEGO Fan> For his voice, they had someone read smurf books in bad French :P [06:53] <ToneTyphoon> XD [06:53] <Legofrodo12> Boba Fett proves the same thing, Obi. xD [06:54] <ToneTyphoon> ^ :P [06:54] <Ihaveawiixboxds> How? :P [06:54] <ToneTyphoon> he has no powers.... (ys) [06:54] <Vonness11`> do any bounty hunters really have powers [06:54] <Obi the LEGO Fan> No, because Boba is physically powerful, Cad is skinny and short :P [06:54] <Vonness11`> (derp) [06:54] <Ihaveawiixboxds> No bounty hunters have powers. (YS) [06:54] <Ihaveawiixboxds> :P [06:54] <Obi the LEGO Fan> like me :P [06:54] <ToneTyphoon> Cad isn't short :P [06:54] <Legofrodo12> Per Wii. xD [06:54] <Legofrodo12> And yeah, how is Cad short? :P [06:55] <ToneTyphoon> He's skinny, I'll give you that :P [06:55] <Ihaveawiixboxds> But he's scrawny. :P [06:55] <ToneTyphoon> he's not scrawny :P [06:55] <ToneTyphoon> just slim :P [06:55] <ToneTyphoon> dude's not malnourished :P [06:55] <FortressOfNight> cad was op [06:55] <FortressOfNight> pls nerf [06:55] <ToneTyphoon> :P [06:56] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Oh I guess you're right, he's not short :P [06:56] <Obi the LEGO Fan> He's actually 6 foot apparently [06:56] <ToneTyphoon> well, he got that whole multi Jedi mind trick during that one story arc [06:56] <Legofrodo12> Hehehehe @ Obi. xD [06:56] <ToneTyphoon> so, there's your nerf Fort [06:56] <ToneTyphoon> he got beat up a little [06:57] <Obi the LEGO Fan> But tall, skinny people are weaker than short and muscular people [06:57] <FortressOfNight> but... like... [06:57] <Obi the LEGO Fan> or tall and muscular people [06:57] <Obi the LEGO Fan> :P [06:57] <FortressOfNight> elves vs dwarves obi? (derp) [06:57] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Cad Bane IS OP :p [06:58] <Obi the LEGO Fan> He fought Obi-Wan with a lightsabre and didn't lose [06:58] <Obi the LEGO Fan> :P [06:58] <FortressOfNight> ikr [06:58] <FortressOfNight> :c [06:58] <Obi the LEGO Fan> DWARVES [06:58] <Obi the LEGO Fan> [06:58] <Obi the LEGO Fan> 4ever [06:58] <ToneTyphoon> what about santa's elves? [06:58] <Riolu777> Okay so apparently without explanation, in the canon, Barriss ended up going with Luminara to Felucia for some mission thing and later she would be killed by Bly using an AT walker of some sort. :P [06:58] <Obi the LEGO Fan> and Obi-Wan is one of the most skilled swordsman [06:59] <ToneTyphoon> yeah, it's in the books Rio [06:59] <Riolu777> So she was pardoned for the bombing or that twist in the Clone Wars was so contrived that it isn't trying to fit with the canon. :P [06:59] <ToneTyphoon> the books are now technically noncanon due to the Clone Wars [06:59] <ToneTyphoon> so :P [06:59] <Riolu777> SHEESH [06:59] <Riolu777> WHATS CANON AND WHAT ISNT [06:59] <Obi the LEGO Fan> which books? [07:00] <Riolu777> It upset me too because I liked Barriss. :P [07:00] <ToneTyphoon> Books from before the Clone Wars that were set during the Clone Wars aren't canon :P [07:00] <ToneTyphoon> *from before the show [07:00] <Riolu777> That's sad. :P [07:00] <Obi the LEGO Fan> oh :P [07:00] <Legofrodo12> I've given up trying to keep track, Rio... Oh wait, I never even tried keeping track in the first place! XD [07:00] <ToneTyphoon> and books after episode 6 [07:00] <Riolu777> And also apparently she was cut from having a death scene in Order 66 in the movie as well. [07:00] <Obi the LEGO Fan> I've never known what was SW canon anyways :P [07:00] <ToneTyphoon> thanks to the whole Episode 7 thing [07:00] <FortressOfNight> everything except the movies and tcw is no longer canon [07:00] <Riolu777> So that's something to stew as well. [07:00] <FortressOfNight> except y'know, rebes [07:00] <FortressOfNight> rebels* [07:01] <FortressOfNight> and books or whatever published after the date of the retconning [07:01] <Riolu777> That's why it's all stupid. [07:01] <Riolu777> They should've planned it better. [07:01] <Obi the LEGO Fan> let's invent our own star wars [07:01] <ToneTyphoon> Well Fort, if they don't specifically contradict current canon, I say it's canon :P [07:01] <Obi the LEGO Fan> :D [07:01] <Legofrodo12> It's ALMOST as bad as Marvel comic books. (as) [07:01] <ToneTyphoon> ^ [07:01] <ToneTyphoon> :P [07:01] <FortressOfNight> sadly disney doesn't tone [07:01] <ToneTyphoon> *DC [07:01] <ToneTyphoon> @Fro [07:01] <ToneTyphoon> DC is the worst [07:02] <Legofrodo12> Yeah, DC too. xD [07:02] <ToneTyphoon> Marvel doesn't reboot every 5 seconds [07:02] <Riolu777> Now Pokemon. [07:02] <Riolu777> Pokemon is pretty clear with canon. [07:02] <ToneTyphoon> Yeah, catch em all [07:02] <ToneTyphoon> but you never will [07:02] <Riolu777> Good job, Pokemon. [07:02] <ToneTyphoon> ever [07:02] <Legofrodo12> But they kill off characters every five seconds, and bring them back to life. :P [07:02] <ToneTyphoon> Fro, that's not the same as re-writing your character [07:03] <FortressOfNight> oh god [07:03] <ToneTyphoon> every [07:03] <ToneTyphoon> single [07:03] <ToneTyphoon> freakin [07:03] <FortressOfNight> i just remembered [07:03] <ToneTyphoon> second [07:03] <ToneTyphoon> :P [07:03] <ToneTyphoon> that's what DC does :P [07:03] <ToneTyphoon> I mean, they've redone Supes about 7 times now [07:03] <FortressOfNight> all the ahsokaxbarriss crap [07:03] <ToneTyphoon> omg Fort, why [07:03] <Obi the LEGO Fan> lol [07:03] <Obi the LEGO Fan> that's a thing? [07:03] <FortressOfNight> YES [07:03] <FortressOfNight> ;-; [07:03] <Riolu777> Now, there's the issue with Ash aging on year from Gen I to Gen V...but that's another issue. :P [07:03] <ToneTyphoon> How could it not be a thing Obi :P [07:04] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Um... [07:04] <Legofrodo12> Dang, I didn't know DC did that, Tone. xD [07:04] <Nart L. Chipikal> Ash is a time lord. c: [07:04] <ToneTyphoon> Sure :P [07:04] <Riolu777> I bet he is. c: [07:04] <ToneTyphoon> but he'll never be the very best [07:04] <ToneTyphoon> cause it never ends (hp) [07:04] <ToneTyphoon> (hp2) [07:04] <Riolu777> I'm actually hoping that stop making Pokemon soon. :P [07:04] <Riolu777> *they [07:04] <ToneTyphoon> they won't [07:05] <ToneTyphoon> It's like Final Fantasy [07:05] <Riolu777> This last gen is way better than Gen 5 but still.... [07:05] <ToneTyphoon> note the ironic name [07:05] <Riolu777> I don't want it to be like Spongebob where it keeps going and getting worse. [07:05] <ToneTyphoon> the irony is so strong in the naming of Final Fantasy, it starts life on Mars [07:05] <Obi the LEGO Fan> So who has looked at the new bionicles? [07:05] <ToneTyphoon> Me [07:06] <ToneTyphoon> Gear system is back [07:06] <Riolu777> And! They're making the girl traveling with Ash have a crush on him this gen. :P [07:06] <Obi the LEGO Fan> yes I like the gears [07:06] <Legofrodo12> I have, but I forgot what they all looked like! D: [07:06] <ToneTyphoon> Armor system is still hero factory, but it's just starting [07:06] <Obi the LEGO Fan> and the new blasters are cool [07:06] <ToneTyphoon> Let's hope they change it [07:06] <Riolu777> I want them to be w thing and marry and stop trying to be a master [07:06] <ToneTyphoon> I heard they shoot really far [07:06] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Yeah, the range is decent [07:06] <Obi the LEGO Fan> I haven't tested it fully [07:06] <Obi the LEGO Fan> :P [07:06] <ToneTyphoon> Rio, do you seriously still watch Pokemon :P [07:06] <Riolu777> ...yes. [07:07] <Riolu777> I stopped watching Gen 5 seasons because those were awful. [07:07] <ToneTyphoon> I thought you meant the games til you mentioned Ash :P [07:07] <Obi the LEGO Fan> The storyline seems like a weird repeat of the original story, though [07:07] <Riolu777> But they're doing pretty well with this season. [07:07] <ToneTyphoon> that's cause that's literally all there is to go on Obi [07:07] <ToneTyphoon> :P [07:07] <Riolu777> I was talking about both. :P [07:07] <Obi the LEGO Fan> A guy with an evil brother named Makuta [07:07] <Vonness11`> I USED to watch pokemon [07:08] <Obi the LEGO Fan> and the same toa, with wiped memories [07:08] <Vonness11`> and used to be obsessed with it :p [07:08] <ToneTyphoon> Oh, I thought you meant Pokemon :P [07:08] <ToneTyphoon> @Obi [07:08] <Vonness11`> XDXD [07:08] <Obi the LEGO Fan> no lol [07:08] <ToneTyphoon> Yeah Obi, it's the same beginning [07:08] <Riolu777> Gen IV was the ending hallmark for good Pokemon television. [07:08] <Obi the LEGO Fan> I've never seen pokemon :P [07:08] <ToneTyphoon> the Toa are represented by planets this time though [07:08] <Riolu777> Not even the first season? :L [07:08] <Obi the LEGO Fan> nope [07:08] <ToneTyphoon> And the Elders are actually warriors [07:08] <ToneTyphoon> not just old [07:08] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Yeah, which is interesting [07:08] <ToneTyphoon> :P [07:08] <ToneTyphoon> [07:08] <Riolu777> Poor Obi with no childhood. [07:09] <ToneTyphoon> mentioned sons as well, so I dunno where they're going with that [07:09] <Vonness11`> I only watched like uhhhh [07:09] <ToneTyphoon> Rio, I barely watched it :P [07:09] <Vonness11`> 40 or so episodes of the first season this year [07:09] <Vonness11`> (derp3) [07:09] <ToneTyphoon> I thought it was hilarious when I was little [07:09] <ToneTyphoon> but I never got Pokemon :P [07:09] <Ihaveawiixboxds> The Pokemon TV show was never that good. [07:10] <Legofrodo12> If I only had a dollar, for ev'ry song I've sung. [07:10] <Legofrodo12> And ev'ry time I've had to play while people sat there drunk. [07:10] <Legofrodo12> You know I'd catch the next train back to where I live. [07:10] <Legofrodo12> Oh Lord, stuck in Lodi again. [07:10] <Legofrodo12> Oh Lord, stuck in Lodi again. [07:10] <Vonness11`> I have X and Black [07:10] <Riolu777> It's basically a gateway drug. [07:10] <Ihaveawiixboxds> The games were REALLY good up to the 4th generation. [07:10] <ToneTyphoon> The logic of taking some super powered creature and deciding that the best thing to do with it was to fight other creatures and that's it [07:10] <ToneTyphoon> I mean [07:10] <Obi the LEGO Fan> ...wut [07:10] <ToneTyphoon> why not take over the world or something [07:10] <Vonness11`> got bored of X after I beat it, and never got past the second gym in black :p [07:10] <Riolu777> If you start a little too much and go a little too far, you're obsessed for life. [07:10] <ToneTyphoon> :P [07:10] <ToneTyphoon> wut Fro? :P [07:10] <Riolu777> Alpha Sapphire is really fun so far, Wii. :P [07:11] <Legofrodo12> Never did Pokemon. :P [07:11] <Ihaveawiixboxds> I just can't stand the hideous graphics. :P [07:11] <Legofrodo12> Oh, that was CCR's Lodi, Tone. :P [07:11] <Riolu777> Yeah Black and White and the sequels were bad. [07:11] <Riolu777> They're adorable, Wii. [07:11] <Vonness11`> I couldnt play black mostly because of the lack of exp share :p [07:11] <Riolu777> It makes me feel sad when I have to kill those cutie Zigzagoon. [07:11] <ToneTyphoon> wut Fro :P [07:11] <Ihaveawiixboxds> The graphics are HORRIBLE! (GAH) [07:12] <Riolu777> And then comes X and Y with OP exp share. :P [07:12] <Ihaveawiixboxds> http://popcultureblog.dallasnews.com/files/2014/06/Pokemon-ORAS-June-10-screenshot-4.jpg [07:12] <Ihaveawiixboxds> Explain what you see there. [07:12] <Legofrodo12> Here Tone: http://viewpure.com/yA7iGxV6rt4?ref=search [07:12] <Ihaveawiixboxds> Tell me how that is adorable. [07:12] <ToneTyphoon> butterflies Wii [07:12] <Obi the LEGO Fan> children looking at butterflies [07:12] <Riolu777> THAT PART WAS SO PRECIOUS WII [07:12] <Vonness11`> How are those graphics bad :p [07:12] <Ihaveawiixboxds> http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/_ui/img/_it/july/screenshots/july_p02_02_it_qdm.jpg [07:13] <ToneTyphoon> It's a freakin DS, what do you want [07:13] <Riolu777> You're such a curmudgeon, Wii. [07:13] <Nart L. Chipikal> That part was meh. 3: [07:13] <Vonness11`> the graphics are much improved from the original games... :p [07:13] <Ihaveawiixboxds> I want bird's eye view back, that's what I want. [07:13] <ToneTyphoon> Wii wants nostalgia, kill him [07:13] <Nart L. Chipikal> I don't like how there are minigame things on the Pokedex thing now. 3: [07:13] <Riolu777> Go play the old games if you want. [07:13] <Vonness11`> wait there are what [07:13] <Ihaveawiixboxds> No, I want people who don't look deformed. :) [07:14] <Ihaveawiixboxds> So that's what I'll do. :P [07:14] <Riolu777> Super Training is a godsend. :P [07:14] <Vonness11`> ever played ssb, wii [07:14] <ToneTyphoon> cause having a body the size of your head isn't deformed :P [07:14] <Vonness11`> put all the characters together in the same room, and at least one is going to look deformed [07:14] <Obi the LEGO Fan> guys why are we discussing pokemon, when we could be discussing much more interesting things like philosophy? [07:14] <Obi the LEGO Fan> (ss) [07:14] <ToneTyphoon> ^ [07:14] <Riolu777> I can finally have a fully EV trained team without beating the game. :P [07:14] <Vonness11`> or fire emblem which I should get back to [07:14] <ToneTyphoon> I actually agree with Obi on this [07:14] <Nart L. Chipikal> because pokemon is nice (ss) [07:14] <Riolu777> Not philopsophy, Obi, social science (as) [07:15] <Ihaveawiixboxds> The only problem is Ruby costs $231.68 on Amazon. :{P [07:15] <Obi the LEGO Fan> How about political philosophy :D [07:15] <Riolu777> Ahem emulators [07:15] <Vonness11`> ...it WHAT [07:15] <Legofrodo12> I agree with Obi on this too... At least I'd have a clue what was being discussed. :P [07:15] <Ihaveawiixboxds> So... [07:15] <ToneTyphoon> Emulators [07:15] <ToneTyphoon> garage sales [07:15] <Ihaveawiixboxds> It's a little hard to get the older games. :P [07:15] <ToneTyphoon> emulators [07:15] <ToneTyphoon> :P [07:15] <Vonness11`> The NEW pokemon game costs that much on amazon? :P [07:15] <Vonness11`> oh nvm [07:15] <Ihaveawiixboxds> Luckily, I can buy it used. :{P [07:15] <Riolu777> Emulators. :P [07:15] <Nart L. Chipikal> I wish I still had Sapphire :c [07:15] <Vonness11`> I was about to criticize amazon heavily for a second :p [07:15] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Rio what is your opinion on John Locke? [07:15] <Riolu777> I have Sapphire and Crystal on my phone, punk. :P [07:16] <Riolu777> Uh, the natural rights dude, right? [07:16] <Nart L. Chipikal> The new one is okay, but still kind of a blah to me. :c [07:16] <Ihaveawiixboxds> Locke, I learned about him last year... [07:16] <Obi the LEGO Fan> well, he talked more about natural law, but the rights were implied [07:17] <Riolu777> Okay. :P [07:17] <Obi the LEGO Fan> I love Locke, but he was a little too idealist about government [07:17] <Riolu777> In what way? [07:18] <Obi the LEGO Fan> historically, governments didn't actually form when a group of people get together and decide to form a contract, they formed when certain groups attain power and decide they want to control the rest of us [07:18] <Riolu777> Nazis [07:18] <Riolu777> :P [07:18] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Just pretty much every government ever :p [07:19] <Riolu777> I know, I was just cashing in today's fixing of Poe's Law. :P [07:19] <Obi the LEGO Fan> I thought that was Godwin's law? [07:19] <Ihaveawiixboxds> WELL I think we've all had enough philosophy for one day. [07:19] <Ihaveawiixboxds> How about those Buckeyes, eh? :P [07:20] <Obi the LEGO Fan> No, Ihave [07:20] <Legofrodo12> Buckeyes? (derp) [07:20] <ToneTyphoon> dah wut now [07:20] <Obi the LEGO Fan> "Poe's law, named after its author Nathan Poe,[1] is an Internet adage reflecting the idea that, without a clear indication of the author's intent, it is difficult or impossible to tell the difference between an expression of sincere extremism and a parody of extremism." [07:20] <Ihaveawiixboxds> I did philosophy last year and it was by far my least favorite subject. :P [07:20] <Riolu777> Ohh pfft silly me, mixing up my Internet principles [07:21] <Obi the LEGO Fan> IHAVE [07:21] <Obi the LEGO Fan> [07:21] <Obi the LEGO Fan> you're dead to me now [07:21] <Obi the LEGO Fan> :| [07:21] <Ihaveawiixboxds> Like I crae. :{P [07:21] <Riolu777> Philosophy is fun, Wii. Convoluted but fun. :P [07:21] <ToneTyphoon> fun [07:21] <ToneTyphoon> yeah [07:21] <ToneTyphoon> interesting definition of fun [07:21] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Life is fun, Rio. Convoluted but fun. [07:21] <Obi the LEGO Fan> :P [07:21] <Ihaveawiixboxds> Philosophy is not fun. :P [07:21] <Legofrodo12> It is, though, Tone. :P [07:21] <Obi the LEGO Fan> And philosophy isn't convoluted by definition [07:22] <ToneTyphoon> It's intersting [07:22] <Riolu777> Or is life convoluted? Fun but convoluted? [07:22] <Ihaveawiixboxds> It's monotonous. :{P [07:22] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Not at all, Ihave [07:22] <Obi the LEGO Fan> It's only monotonous if you make it that way [07:22] <Riolu777> Monotonous? [07:22] <Riolu777> How? [07:22] <Riolu777> :P [07:22] <Obi the LEGO Fan> You have to think, be creative [07:22] <ToneTyphoon> *find it [07:22] <FortressOfNight> http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/debatablezone/images/0/08/Screenshot_%2896%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20150102072147 yes, of course. [07:22] <Riolu777> The mass amounts of different philosophies proves otherwise. :P [07:23] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Only boring people could find philosophy boring [07:23] <Obi the LEGO Fan> (derp) [07:23] <ToneTyphoon> philosophy is nice and abstract and all, but I prefer science, and discovering how the world works [07:23] <Ihaveawiixboxds> The mass amounts of different philosophies make it impossibly hard to follow, at least for me. :P [07:23] <Riolu777> Nothing beats the idiosyncrasies of English, though. [07:23] <ToneTyphoon> philosophy just feels like beating your head against a wall til you find where the safe is hidden [07:24] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Tone: [07:24] <Obi the LEGO Fan> how do you actually know science is true? [07:24] <ToneTyphoon> sigh [07:24] <Ihaveawiixboxds> Everything is all tangled up in philosophies, where as in science everything has been ordered neatly. :P [07:24] <Obi the LEGO Fan> does the world really work that way, or do we just think that because of the structure of our minds? [07:24] <Riolu777> *unfolds lawn chair* [07:24] <Vonness11`> I KEEP THINKING TONE'S AVATAR IS CHELL [07:24] <Riolu777> *grabs popcorn* [07:24] <ToneTyphoon> maybe I'm really a woman (ss) [07:24] <Legofrodo12> XD [07:24] <FortressOfNight> there is literally no way to prove, for sure, that anything exists. [07:24] <ToneTyphoon> stuck in a test facility [07:24] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Ihave: Science requires philosophy to have any sort of foundation or context [07:24] <FortressOfNight> so why bother arguing over it [07:25] <ToneTyphoon> ^ [07:25] <ToneTyphoon> :P [07:25] <ToneTyphoon> beating your head against a wall :P [07:25] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Fortress: things exist by definition [07:25] <Riolu777> That's rather nihilistic. :P [07:25] <Obi the LEGO Fan> even if everything is an illusion, an illusion still exists [07:25] <Obi the LEGO Fan> there is no possible world in which nothing exists, so something must exist [07:25] <FortressOfNight> how do you know the definition exists, though? [07:26] <Riolu777> Because the definition has a definition! [07:26] <FortressOfNight> http://viewpure.com/L45Q1_psDqk [07:26] <Obi the LEGO Fan> the definition doesn't have an independent ontology, it's just a concept [07:26] <FortressOfNight> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Define%20defintion [07:26] <Obi the LEGO Fan> but in order for there to be concepts, there must be something to conceptualize, ergo something exists [07:27] <ToneTyphoon> mmhm [07:27] <Harold89> Does anyone listen to Nujabes [07:27] <Obi the LEGO Fan> also, if nothing exists, then the world is absurd [07:27] <Riolu777> Pauline. o/ [07:27] <ToneTyphoon> Never heard of em Harry [07:27] <Riolu777> Sounds like a generic trap producer, Harry. [07:27] <Obi the LEGO Fan> so it all boils down to a choice [07:27] <Obi the LEGO Fan> between absurdity and intelligibility [07:27] <FortressOfNight> yeah well you're just a figment of my imagination and none of this is real! BALBALBLHAHL I CAN'T HEAR YOU [07:27] <Ihaveawiixboxds> But if the world doesn't exist, then how can it be absurd? :O [07:27] <Harold89> Nope @rio [07:28] <ToneTyphoon> cause it doesn't exist [07:28] <Obi the LEGO Fan> if you accept intelligibility, then you accept certain necessary conditions and preconditions [07:28] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Ihave: I use "the world" in the philosophical sense to refer to reality [07:28] <Riolu777> We're all specks [07:28] <Obi the LEGO Fan> not the earth as a planet [07:28] <Riolu777> Floating [07:28] <FortressOfNight> How Can The World Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real? [07:28] <Ihaveawiixboxds> Hmm... Nujabes sounds relaxing. [07:29] <Harold89> He is, Ihave. [07:29] <Obi the LEGO Fan> So either some things exist, or everything is absurd, in which case there is nothing more left to do to refute the idea; it stands refuted by its absurdity. [07:29] <ToneTyphoon> mmhm, yes, very nice [07:29] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Reductio ad absurdum is actually an argument in itself [07:29] <Harold89> He's a Japanese DJ/hip hop producer [07:29] <ToneTyphoon> lol wut [07:29] <Harold89> Er, he was [07:29] <ToneTyphoon> was? :P [07:29] <ToneTyphoon> uh [07:29] <ToneTyphoon> :P [07:30] <Harold89> he died recently :/ [07:30] <Riolu777> He died a sad death to Ramen. [07:30] <ToneTyphoon> Rio......... [07:30] <ToneTyphoon> omg, why [07:30] <Riolu777> OH HE ACTUALLY DIED? [07:30] <Riolu777> IM SO SORRY [07:30] <Riolu777> OH MY GOSH [07:30] <ToneTyphoon> that timing :P [07:30] <FortressOfNight> http://en.wikipedia.com/wiki/Solipsism truly the best belief system [07:30] <Riolu777> I'll just go and die now [07:30] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Fortress: Also an absurd one :P [07:30] <Harold89> it's okay haha [07:30] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Rio: Not now, do it in a few decades [07:31] <ToneTyphoon> I actually thought that when I was a kid Fort :P [07:31] <Legofrodo12> Nuuu Rio... I LOVE YOUUUUU :c Dun die.... :'( :'( :'( [07:31] <Obi the LEGO Fan> Rio, ily truly