User:Alemas2005/Chat/Logs/8 June 2016

 [07:56]  Toby just has the game slow it down in the final version :P [07:56]  Which only confirms my suspicions that the sped up versions of songs are the ones he originally created [07:57]  Hmm, I see [07:57]  And he just has them slow down in the game because it's more efficient than having to lengthen them in FL Studio or whatever :P [07:58]  *than having to slow them down [07:58]  I can't type :P [08:01]  Fallen Down's file in the demo and the final version are also identical [08:04]  wow you guys are still talking about undertale o: [08:05]  Apparently so xD [08:06]  Yus Nart o: [08:14]  i'm watching b4nny's playing of barbie dreamhouse party c: [08:14]  please help c': [08:15]  I don't think I can do much right now to help, Nart c': [08:16]  I'm observing how the Undertale demo works with data c': [08:17]  ooooh cool c: [08:18] <Person of Info> The moment you meet Flowey, the demo creates a file [08:18] <Person of Info> The first line says "[Flowey]" and right below it, it says "Met1=1" [08:19] <Person of Info> Met1 is a value that the game checks for whenever you go through the meeting with Flowey at the beginning of the game [08:20] <Person of Info> I'll go check later how it reacts on the second, third, and fourth meetings [08:20] <Person of Info> The file containing it is created in the middle of the game running, BTW [08:20] <Person of Info> They way it works honestly makes sense :P [08:25] <Person of Info> Upon the part where Toriel leaves you by yourself, the game creates file9, a file which stores your save [08:25] <Person of Info> file9 in particular is an autosave [08:26] <Person of Info> When you die, the game loads file9 [08:27] <Person of Info> The full version has a file called file0, which I think is the main save itself [08:27] <Person of Info> But I'll save later to confirm it [08:30] <Person of Info> As a side note, the hidden ant-sized Froggit isn't present in the demo :P [08:30] <Paulinekovaleva> Aw no, how sad xD [08:32] <Person of Info> I think the F4 = Four Frogs thing was something Toby came up with in the middle of development when he was bored or something :P [08:34] <Person of Info> Crap I got stuck in a wall [08:34] <Person of Info> I cant get out [08:34] <Person of Info> (derp) [08:34] <Person of Info> You know when you fall into a pit then you take an exit to get back up? [08:35] <Person of Info> If you try moving while game moves back to the surface, you'll move and get stuck in the wall :P [08:35] <Paulinekovaleva> Ouch xD [08:35] <Person of Info> *while the game moves [08:35] <Person of Info> And since I haven't saved yet, I have to restart (derp) [08:36] <Person of Info> I can't use file9 cause 1) since I'm stuck, I can't find a monster to help kill me and 2) it's an autosave and not a proper save file :P [08:36] <Person of Info> Well it's fine, the demo is short anyway (derp) [08:36] <Person of Info> Well the ruins in general is short but still :P [08:38] <Person of Info> OK just restarted [08:39] <Person of Info> The file with "[Flowey]" in it is the one that saves all the stuff the game remembers irrespective of save file or lack thereof :P [08:40] <Person of Info> Like, even if you delete your save, so long as this file is intact, the game will remember your sins (hp) [08:40] <Person of Info> Like, just now, Flowey told me off for making me introduce himself again :P [08:41] <Person of Info> "Met1=2" [08:41] <Person of Info> The value changed from 1 to 2 [08:41] <Person of Info> The next time I meet him, he's gonna say "Don't you have anything better to do?" :P [08:41] <Person of Info> I can test it now actually [08:43] <Person of Info> YES IM RIGHT [08:43] <Person of Info> :P [08:43] <Person of Info> "Met1=3" [08:43] <Person of Info> I met him thrice now (derp) [08:43] <Person of Info> Hmmmm lemme try something [08:45] <Person of Info> It's only going to work if Undertale's demo is a 32-bit application [08:46] <Person of Info> I'm going to set the value to the largest number that can be expressed in 32 bits, minus 1, which is 4,294,967,295 and see if it'll crash :P [08:46] <Person of Info> tfw you're messing with a game just to crash it in your own special way (derp) [08:47] <Person of Info> Hmm didn't crash [08:48] <Person of Info> Hmm this is bizarre [08:48] <Person of Info> It just added 1 to Met1 [08:48] <Person of Info> (shrug) [08:48] <Person of Info> I was hoping to cause an integer overflow [08:49] <Person of Info> Well I'll try again :P [08:49] <Person of Info> "Met1=4294967297" [08:50] <Person of Info> (shrug) [08:50] <Person of Info> I guess it just doesn't work the way I think it works :P [08:50] <Person of Info> I have a lot to learn, I guess (derp) [08:54] <Alemas2005> Woah. [08:54] <Alemas2005> ...you trying to crack the demo or something? :P [08:54] <Person of Info> Weird so setting Met1 to a huge negative number sets the value to -17.446 upon meeting Flowey again [08:54] <Person of Info> Trying to figure out how the game works, sorta :P [08:55] <Person of Info> I can't completely crack it cause I'm not that knowledgeable with GameMaker, the application the game was made in [08:55] <Alemas2005> ...?! :P [08:56] <Alemas2005> Why would you be so interested... :P [08:56] <Person of Info> Well, I'm majoring in comp sci so (derp) [08:56] <Person of Info> This is sort of my kind of thing :P [08:56] <Alemas2005> YouTube's broken. [08:56] <Alemas2005> The home page is broken. [08:56] <Alemas2005> Wait, hang on. [08:56] <Person of Info> Oh? [08:57] <Person of Info> As a side note, I despise web development :{P [08:57] <Alemas2005> Yup, broken. [08:57] <Person of Info> Hmm weird [08:57] <Alemas2005> It gives me always the same "Recommended videos". [08:57] <Alemas2005> And there's no big featured video. [08:58] <Person of Info> Recommended videos seems to work for me [08:58] <Person of Info> No big featured video though [08:58] <Person of Info> Also the background looks kind of off [08:59] <Alemas2005> Ugh, whatever then... [09:00] <Person of Info> "Error in parsing value for 'background-image'. Declaration dropped." -Inspect Element debugger [09:00] <Person of Info> That explains the background :{P [09:00] <Person of Info> I think whoever was supposed to update it messed up [09:01] <Person of Info> Human error seems to be the easiest explanation :{P [09:01] <Person of Info> Ah well, back to messing around with the demo for me [09:01] <Alemas2005> ...you are honestly sounding like a massive nerd right now. :P [09:01] <Person of Info> Nerds make up a good portion of this wiki honestly. :{P [09:04] <Person of Info> Hmmm so it looks like every time the meeting with Flowey starts, Met1 increases by 1. I don't think it'll be rid of the .446 at the end that I got by entering an absurdly high negative number. What if I try putting in an absurdly high positive number? :P [09:05] <Person of Info> Will it add to that number by 1, or will the game shrink it? Let's see [09:07] <Person of Info> "Met1=19.446" [09:07] <Person of Info> Ah so it shrinks it (derp) [09:07] <Person of Info> Interesting :P