Board Thread:Community Discussions/@comment-24718406-20150721001230/@comment-5381241-20150722000200

I understand why some people would choose to remove the edit requirement, or at least leave it the way it is. This does not mean I have to agree with them, however, and I don't. This does not make me deaf, stubborn, unintelligent, etc. I have my own opinions and beliefs, and I reserve my right to express them however I feel necessary. If you have a hard time understanding me or disagree with me, please let me know, but there is not much we can do beyond that point other than to leave the conversation alone.

Now, I would like to re-post my thoughts on the matter at hand. I do not feel as if I did a very good job explaining my views earlier, so I have recollected my thoughts and am going to try again.

I feel as if the edit requirement (as it currently is) is beneficial in the following:

1. Ensures that the user stays in touch with the community outside of chat. What is the point in wanting to help in chat if you couldn't care less about what happens outside of chat? Keep in the mind, the users in chat are the same as the ones outside of chat.

2. Proves a certain level of worth or dedication, as you could call it. It means that the user is willing to dedicate more of his time towards the wiki as a whole.

I believe it would be more beneficial to increase the edit req to 100 edits, with 50 of them being mainspace. Along with the previously stated points, I believe that the new edit req will be more beneficial in the following:

1. While the 75 edit requirement is a good method of proving dedication, anybody can easily spam their way to 75 edits by incessantly posting low-quality comments on blogs, forums, message walls, etc. It has been seen before, and this is by no means "dedication". By increasing the edit count to 100, this makes it slightly more difficult to achieve the requirement.

2. The 50 mainspace edits will primarily be the determining factor in whether someone is dedicated towards the wiki enough, by requiring that the user makes 50 quality edits. Many will argue that you shouldn't need experience in mainspace editing for chat moderating (and this is true), but it isn't about that. It is about proving dedication.

If we were to get rid of the edit requirement:

A user planning to run for chat moderator would only be required to be an active member (not to be mistaken as an active contributor) on the wiki for 2 months. As if obtaining 75 edits and being active on the wiki for 2 months wasn't easy enough, being active on the wiki for 2 months alone is not effective in proving a user's dedication towards the wiki. 2 months is not a long time, and is relatively easy to achieve. Anybody can do this, including users who would not be capable of using their chat moderator rights appropriately (note: when it comes down to the community determining whether a particular user is capable of chat moderator or not, the community itself can never accurately judge whether a user is truly capable of chat moderator rights unless the user is actually seen using them or unless the user is obviously incapable [such as, the user being banned before, the user causing trouble, etc]).

It should also be noted that anybody can fake a good attitude to simply achieve the chat moderator rights, then just as quickly turn around and create havoc with the rights. At least with an edit requirement, the user is spending some time positively contributing to the wiki (particularly with 50 mainspace edits).