Thread:Bourgeoisie/@comment-4552817-20150216091843/@comment-4552817-20150219010758

Bourgeoisies, I was not too busy to take proper action early on. When the debate first turned into an argument, I didn't think anyone was quite fully deserving of an official warning or kick at that point even with the few unkind remarks from users. A simple caution to remain civil or friendly seemed all that was necessary to me.

Yes, in ideal circumstances, I would have elaborated my request a bit. I was using my iPod which struggles to keep up with chat and has annoying tendencies toward lags and glitches. I only explain that to help you understand why my request was brief. I wanted to catch the argument before it got out of hand and due to the speed of main chat, if I had said much more, it is more than likely it would lag and crash on me. A little modding is better than none at all. I would have appreciated it if another better equipped mod were able to step in, but that was not the case.

It was after that when warnings or kicks seemed appropriate. As I stated before, I hesitated because I felt that only would escalate the issue when it seemed to be dying down. Perhaps I should have given them after all. If I could redo it all, I probably would intervene more. It never occurred to me that you and Ajr could possibly not know what you said could be considered policy violations. It was so obvious to myself and other users. I still have a hard time believing you would think everything you said was simply friendly debate.

Even so, I do not feel it gives you an adequate excuse. I do not recall my exact words, but I did say enough it was time to move on to a new topic. I see that as a quite clear request from a moderator for everyone involved to stop that particular discussion. Other users also made similar statements.

That was basically my way of giving everyone a warning. I would say anything after that was worthy of a kick at the very least or even a ban depending on the severity. Then I glitched out and was unable to do anything at the time.

All that being said, I am actually not entirely opposed to the ban being reverted. Since it appeared to me that nothing was truly settled, only ended, the main intent of the ban was to prevent you from bringing up the subject and continuing the debate in the near future. As well as to make a point that I and others on chat do not appreciate that sort of situation or those kinds of comments. You could say it was a form of discipline or punishment for breaking policy, and honestly I see nothing wrong with that. To me it does not make much of a difference how well something is modded a the time. If a policy is broken, especially more than once, is it not fair implement consequences?

Even though I am not convinced it was unjustified, with all this discussion, I am sure something like this will not happen again any time soon, so I think I would be okay with unbanning.

Just to be sure, I hope you know I do not view the moderator responsibility as a higher rank at all. And I have no personal issues with you or anyone else in this case. If I made a mistake in interpreting the rules or the situation, I apologize for it. Any action I made was in attempt to do the right thing.

I think I have made my case, so I will leave it to the admins to decide what's best, whether to leave the ban or undo it.