Board Thread:Suggestions/@comment-4845243-20130908163838/@comment-5772846-20130910162200

Obi the LEGO Fan wrote:

Ireithien wrote:

Alemas2005 wrote: Jdude420 wrote: Ireithien wrote: Alemas2005 wrote: Okay...


 * 1) Implement the emotes from my blog.
 * 2) Reduce the number of CMs. Eliminate the inactive ones, basically. We have too many of 'em. Plus, fewer CMs would make the active ones more willing to go on chat and moderate, as they don't go around thinking "There are so many CMs that there must be a few already on chat".
 * 3) Promote Obi to buro.  Seriously, why you don't do it already, is a complete mistery.
 * 4) Get more admins. With only Rio and Obi who are active, we desperately need more in case of a crisis.

Should be it. 1. Yesh. :P

2. I'm inclined to agree here.

3. I would argue we shouldn't do it yet... after all, once you have buro, you can't lose it. It's a big deal. I think Drew and BCG are fine for now...

4. Yes, They've chosen their new ones, but Drew's too lazy to click a few buttons, apparently. :P 1. Nuuuuuuuuuuuuu. 2. Why? I see no point in the demotion of inactive CMs, and as far as gittin' more inactive for CMs to come on. I'm pretty such we all come on when we can, although a couple more CMs would be nice as chat has had 15-ish people and no CMs, but the problems is who?

3. I think Obi is fine as Admin, but I would be in no way apposed to his promotion to Buro.

4. @Ire, IKR, Admins seem so procrastinative...

We don't need any more buros...not that I don't trust Obi, but I am very hesitant to promote any buros. They permanently become the most powerful users on the wiki. Can't be taken lightly. Besides, Obi's been an admin for less than one year... Drew and BCG have been here a long time. I'm not going to defend myself for bureaucrat, but I'd like to note a couple things:
 * 1) Yeeeeeeeeeeeees.
 * 2) EVEN MORE CMs?! You kidding, the chances of having 15 people on and no CMs on is low.
 * 3) We need more Buros anyway.
 * 4) AND I HATE IT.

1) Drew is a dictator when it comes to picking bureaucrats. He'll never listen to the community, he doesn't even listen to the admin team. He and BCG will decide, whenever they feel like it, so don't waste time arguing.

2) Bureaucrat is just a set of tools, and doesn't make people "more powerful", unless they abuse those tools. It does usually signify seniority, but that should be there with or without bureaucrat, and good admins will recognize it. It really depends on how you want to define "power." A set of tools may be its given description, but that can also be seen as power depending on how you look at it... obviously, I don't think the admins have any physical power here, but they do have power, i.e., the ability to promote, the ability to kick/ban/block, etc etc. on here.

The only reason I'd oppose bureaucrat for you (and for anyone else ATM) is because we really don't need any. Bureaucrats, in addition to what an admin has, can also...

1. 'Not be demoted. '(This is a big one. Not that I don't trust you or any of the other admins... I just am uncomfortable with anyone who hasn't been here longer than at least, IDK, 3-4 years being completely un-demotable except by Wikia staff.

2. Promote users to rollback, patroller, admin, and bureaucrat. Obviously this is useful, but promotions of this kind are rarer than chat mod promotions and so we don't have a high demand for more buros.

That is basically it, but you get the point. It isn't a whole lot of "power" or "tools", whatever you want to call it: it's just the nature of these things that makes me uncomfortable with teh idea of promoting more. Nothing against you, or the other admins, of course.