Thread:Madkatmaximus/@comment-25625534-20150602104025/@comment-26436937-20150605024544

Luke McSwagger99 wrote: Obi the LEGO Fan wrote:

-Nebulous- wrote: "As for ignorance/detest toward LGBT* people...again, the religious right definitely does not exclude this by principle. People on the religious right perpetuate the myth that people choose to be queer, and the myth that "conversion" therapy can work — two falsehoods that have been very harmful to LGBT* people."

I don't want to get involved in writing essays back and forth with you guys, but I'd just like to point out that there is no conclusive evidence that this is biological, so you should probably refrain from calling an opinion fact unless you wanna get burned. :P I would be hesitant to conflate me saying it is not a choice with me saying it is biological. I know for a fact that it is not a choice, based on my own experience and the testimonies of thousands of others, as well as other considerations. However, I do not know for sure what does cause it — my guess is that it is a complex genetic trait, one that is not Mendelian but is instead affected by many factors. But I can't prove that. I can, however, demonstrate that it is not a choice, which is all I'm saying. To say otherwise is to say you know better about the experience of LGBT* people than we do ourselves, which is definitely perpetuating ignorance (and it is pretty arrogant as well, to be frank). That was my point. By implying that it is not a choice you also implied that you perceive it as a natural occurence...but in turn you state that you can't prove that to be true. And what would you mean by "demonstrating" that it is not a choice? hi.... lgbt youth here...... wasn't a choice for me....... holy cow live evidence