Board Thread:Block/Unblock Users/@comment-30683785-20160807010255/@comment-13855718-20160807181552

HyperFlash Studios wrote:

Plurky of House Targaryen wrote:

Brick425 wrote: Plurky of House Targaryen wrote: HyperFlash Studios wrote:

Plurky of House Targaryen wrote:

HyperFlash Studios wrote:

Plurky of House Targaryen wrote:

HyperFlash Studios wrote:

Plurky of House Targaryen wrote: Hype,

Your main reason to defend a block instead of a regular chat ban is that her activities go "beyond chat". Yet the only thing I've seen mentioned is spamming to get to vote - something that lots of peeps have done, and that was even supported by the community, seeing how edits where quite the useless measurement for involvement in the wiki. Therefor I see no reason to discuss even the possibilty of a block, seeing as what she is accused of limits itself to chat. Spamming to get edits is technically against the rules but alas, that's besides the point. My point is from what she has done off of chat, nothing's stopping her from doing more. But if the majority believes a chat ban is in order, then I suppose a chat ban will be arranged. If she continues this behavior off chat, then a block is warranted. Nothing stopping her from doing more? perhaps. Nothing suggesting she'll do more either. Nor do I feel a chat ban is in order. True, it's just that her behavior hasn't suggested any kind of improvement. Do you feel that anything should be done about the situation at all? I'd say that this "petition", which is not raised far above a collective personal attack and shaming,  should in itself suffice as a clear message. Action should be taken against her, if she does not listen to these warnings. But it seems no more then logical to me that such action should not be in the form of a public show-trial where, I fear, emotions cloud rational judgement. But she has already been giving warnings and nothing has ever changed. That's why I think action should be taken now, instead of delaying it further. She's broken the rules so many times that something needs to be done. Though I do agree with you in saying emotions can cloud rational judgement. If there was a better way to carry this out I would have used it but this is the option I was presented with. But this warning is of quite a different caliber. Such a collective and I daresay personal attack... Perhaps, perhaps action should be taken. But such a petition is in no suitation correct to use. You're saying give her another warning? It's been said time and time again that she's had warnings before.

Also, we're having the petition to be inclusive of the non-Admin community, not to shame or attack Nya. It's a fair trial. I addmitted that I was fully aware of the previous warnings.

A fair trial? Ufcourse this isn't a fair  trial, and ufcourse it is to shame and attack her. Well, perhaps it was not intended as such, but it has turned into exectly that. What is the purpose of this? To ask the community about a matter they have absolutely no reason to get involved in? We have CMs to keep the order in chat, if they can't do that, its their fault. How on earth do we expect every single user here to be objective enough to not turn this into "do you like nya or not"? Why should the community not be allowed to get involved in matters concerning the community? should they not have any say in what goes on and just let the administrators make all the decisions? The community can have a say in certain things. Things where the community can be trusted. But turning this wiki into a dictatorship of the masses? I'll oppose that every way I can. This is such an issue that the community cannot be trusted with. It is to personal, or at least that is what it is turned into. Letting the admins make all the decisions? I oppose that. Letting the community make all the decisions? I oppose that too.