User:Slicer Vorzakh/ChatLogs/12 May 2016

 [02:05]  my bae [02:05]  how is that not hype [02:05]  Maybe this is why they lost to the Japanese [02:05]  Armored quadricycle [02:05]  Wow [02:05]  o/ [02:05]  I was just thinking of you Ava [02:05]  That sounds about as suicidal as mustard gas in unfavorable winds [02:05]  :{P [02:05]  Which also happened because humans are idiots [02:06]  liberals, am I right? (as) [02:06]  If the wind is blowing towards you and you want to use gas, just drop it behind enemy lines [02:06]  But Keps [02:06]  That would violate the Hague Convention. (gasp2) [02:07]  slicer why is your avatar a pentagram [02:07] <Skully Of House Lannister> slice is satan [02:07] <Avalair> who are you sacraficing [02:07] <Keplers> You know what else would violate several conventions [02:07] <Brick425> Why not? [02:07] <Skully Of House Lannister> i'd sacrifice slice [02:07] <Keplers> Massacring Polish POWs and Jews [02:07] <Keplers> That didn't stop Hitle-- ohhhhhh [02:07] <Slicer Vorzakh> im sacrificing all of chat [02:07] <Slicer Vorzakh> particularly ale [02:07] <Brick425> ty ^ [02:07] <HyperFlash Studios> You can't sacrifice me :{P [02:07] <Skully Of House Lannister> slice dont sacrifice me im so spucy [02:07] <Avalair> darnit [02:07] <Keplers> Not to mention Soviet Union's war crime in annexing Poland [02:08] <HyperFlash Studios> You can't even touch me :{P [02:08] <Keplers> Not that any of the Allies gave a dang because Soviets were the big good guys [02:08] <Michaelyoda> I'm 900 years old. At this point, it's not worth the effort, Slice [02:08] <HyperFlash Studios> I'm 3fast5you [02:08] <Keplers> I mean, Churchill tried but that tiny British force wasn't about to tell the USSR what to do [02:08] <Keplers> And FDR was too stupid to help [02:08] <Keplers> #chatkill [02:09] <Keplers> I even made a socialist leave chat [02:09] <Keplers> My rants are ood [02:09] <Keplers> *good [02:09] <Brick425> The only reason the UK and US sided with the USSR is because they knew Hitler couldn't fight a two front war [02:09] <HyperFlash Studios> Ava [02:09] <Keplers> Well, technically, they didn't need to side with the USSR [02:09] <HyperFlash Studios> Talk to meh (derp2) [02:09] <Avalair> Hi Hyper [02:09] <Keplers> Hitler settled that for them [02:09] <HyperFlash Studios> Hi [02:09] <HyperFlash Studios> How r u [02:09] <Brick425> There's no way the USSR could have one, even though they did have about 100 billion soldiers [02:10] <Keplers> But we should have at the least had Stalin give back Poland [02:10] <Brick425> *won [02:10] <AmazingPythor> The Soviets are easily the most important aspect of Allied victory, despite what the 'Muricans like to say. [02:10] <Michaelyoda> You what you're leaving out, AP? [02:10] <AmazingPythor> test [02:10] <Keplers> We let the Eastern Bloc happen because we didn't want to tell Stalin to stop oppressing people the same way Hitler had just been oppressing people [02:10] <Brick425> Pythor, the Eastern Front and Western Front were practically two different wars [02:11] <AmazingPythor> Ofc, but there's no way the Western Allies could've liberated France if it was a one-front war. [02:11] <Keplers> We really don't have the Soviet Union to thank for that [02:11] <Keplers> We have Hitler to thank [02:11] <Michaelyoda> ^ [02:11] <Keplers> A two-front war was his idea [02:11] <Brick425> But you're saying there's a way the USSR could have done differently in the east alone? [02:12] <AmazingPythor> Fair enough. [02:12] <AmazingPythor> test [02:12] <Keplers> The USSR beat the crap out of Germany without any Allied intervention in 1941 [02:12] <Keplers> There were no British attacks going on at that time [02:12] <HyperFlash Studios> Ava u did it again (derp2) [02:12] <Michaelyoda> And ftr, the Japan v America in the Pacific made it a 3-front war [02:12] <Brick425> Germany screwed itself equally as bad as the USSR did. Hitler made the mistake of pulling a Napoleon and trying to conquer Europe, ending in the invasion of Russia in winter [02:12] <AmazingPythor> They always have it in the bag until they invade Russia. [02:12] <Keplers> Hitler treated the Eastern Front as the main theater and the Western Front was downplayed, if it could even be considered existent [02:13] <Keplers> The USSR could easily have conquered Europe single-handed [02:13] <AmazingPythor> Well I meant in terms of victory against Germany my [02:13] <Keplers> Forget beating Germany [02:13] <Brick425> America had the luck of being between two huge oceans, so fighting a two front war for them was no problem [02:13] <Brick425> Germany, not so much. But that doesn't mean the USSR was more responsible just because they had more manpower, or made the fastest advances [02:14] <Keplers> Hitler was solely responsible for the Allied victory. If he hadn't been high on literally 80 drugs maybe he wouldn't have attacked Russia out of nowhere [02:14] <AmazingPythor> Although if the Western Allies hadn't intervened ofc The Soviets would control basically everything. [02:14] <AmazingPythor> test [02:14] <AmazingPythor> I freaking hate my Internet. [02:14] <Keplers> That said [02:15] <Keplers> D-Day could not have occurred if Britain did not exist as a staging ground [02:15] <Keplers> Britain... also couldn't have participated in the war [02:15] <AmazingPythor> The Soviet Union was super isolationist so if Germany wasn't ruled by an idiot they'd control basically all of Western Europe except maybe Britain. [02:16] <Keplers> Considering there's no reason other than The Brits Fought Better that Hitler lost, I think the war was doomed to fail in 1940 [02:16] <Michaelyoda> https://vimeo.com/128373915 [02:16] <Michaelyoda> This video is worth the time [02:16] <Keplers> Consider, AP, that Britain would not accept peace [02:16] <Keplers> Churchill absolutely would not negotiate with the Nazis, so one of them had to go down [02:17] <AmazingPythor> Well he'd be out of office eventually. [02:17] <Keplers> During the Blitz? [02:17] <Keplers> He only lost office after the war [02:17] <AmazingPythor> Wait I thought he was replaced in 1945 [02:17] <AmazingPythor> Like after VE Day but Japan hadn't surrendered [02:18] <AmazingPythor> If Britain had failed to make any successful moves against the Nazis by the time Churchill was replaced [02:18] <ElementFinn> hey? [02:18] <AmazingPythor> His successor would just stick to fighting on the defensive, most likely. [02:18] <HyperFlash Studios> o/ [02:18] <Michaelyoda> o/ [02:18] <AmazingPythor> Hi. :P [02:18] <ElementFinn> three hi's! :O [02:18] <Keplers> Hmm. [02:18] <Keplers> "With a general election looming (there had been none for almost a decade), and with the Labour Ministers refusing to continue the wartime coalition, Churchill resigned as Prime Minister on 23 May." [02:19] <AmazingPythor> Okay so after VE Day [02:19] <ElementFinn> why are we talking about WWII? [02:19] <Keplers> Well, when put that way, Ape, the Nazis would almost definitely have won had Operation Barbarossa not happened [02:19] <AmazingPythor> How long does a Prime Minister Serve? :P [02:19] <Keplers> 5 years [02:20] <AmazingPythor> Well ofc keps [02:20] <AmazingPythor> But the RAF was able to drive back the Luftwaffe [02:20] <Michaelyoda> o/ [02:20] <Keplers> But that's what I was getting to [02:20] <AmazingPythor> So they'd likely be able to keep out Nazi invasion [02:20] <Keplers> The RAF only has so many planes [02:20] <Keplers> The Nazis have far more [02:20] <ElementFinn> nartwhal o/ [02:20] <Son of Elrond> efin o/ [02:20] <Nart L. Chipikal> o/ [02:20] <AmazingPythor> But not liberate any of Western Europe ofc [02:21] <Floyd pinkerton19> [02:21] <ElementFinn> hey soe \o [02:21] <AmazingPythor> They had enough for Hitler to order a retreat. :P [02:21] <Keplers> ... fair point [02:21] <AmazingPythor> Well that was mostly due to the planes being more sophisticated [02:21] <Floyd pinkerton19> alright, g'night! [02:21] <ElementFinn> should I try to make up a joke? [02:21] <ElementFinn> :{P [02:21] <AmazingPythor> But they'd probably just keep making planes in case of another attack. [02:21] <Keplers> So Churchill would either continue on the defensive (a solo offensive being impossible) or a new PM would enter and sign peace with the Nazis [02:21] <HyperFlash Studios> no Finn (ale) [02:21] <ElementFinn> lol [02:22] <ElementFinn> hype give me a topic [02:22] <HyperFlash Studios> What for [02:22] <T-007Bond> o/ [02:22] <ElementFinn> i feel up to the challenge :{P [02:22] <Keplers> Now, Pearl Harbor happens, because we are only assuming that Operation Barbarossa didn't happen :{P [02:22] <ElementFinn> hey bond \o [02:22] <Michaelyoda> o/ [02:22] <AmazingPythor> Well would Hitler even accept peace without forcing Britain under Nazi control? [02:22] <ElementFinn> someone give me a topic [02:22] <Keplers> They tried to offer peace after they failed to take Britain [02:22] <HyperFlash Studios> Up to the challenge of what :{p [02:23] <ElementFinn> making up a joke :{P [02:23] <Keplers> They were sort of insulted, to say the least [02:23] <ElementFinn> of course :{P [02:23] <HyperFlash Studios> Topic: Sonic :{P [02:23] <Michaelyoda> o/ [02:23] <HyperFlash Studios> afk :{P [02:23] <ElementFinn> IT'S A BIRD! [02:23] <ElementFinn> IT'S A PLANE! [02:23] <ElementFinn> IT'S A... Sonic?? [02:23] <ElementFinn> I did NOT see that coming...O_O [02:24] <ElementFinn> best joke of the year (as) [02:24] <AmazingPythor> "Peace" as in Germany doesn't gain any British territory and they both stick to themselves, or...? :P [02:24] <AmazingPythor> o/ [02:24] <Keplers> Ja. [02:24] <Brick425> Nein [02:24] <AmazingPythor> Then yeah the new PM would likely agree to that, but still build up the air force just in case. :{P [02:24] <ElementFinn> Give me another topic [02:25] <ElementFinn> :{P [02:25] <Brick425> At least, not in a large period of time [02:25] <ElementFinn> Time. [02:25] <ElementFinn> Thx Brick. [02:25] <ElementFinn> :{P [02:25] <Peridot Dreemurr> S A N I C [02:25] <Brick425> He might have made peace with the UK, but it'd end up being a copy and paste of Operation Barbarossa [02:25] <ElementFinn> Here's my joke: [02:25] <Keplers> http://ww2today.com/hitler-makes-a-peace-offer-to-britain [02:26] <AmazingPythor> Well things would likely escalate eventually. [02:26] <ElementFinn> What rhymes with time? (thinking) [02:26] <AmazingPythor> test [02:26] <Son of Elrond> lime [02:26] <ElementFinn> pass [02:26] <Keplers> If Britain wasn't prepared for a Nazi attack, they don't have the numbers or Soviet armored vehicles that won the East [02:26] <ElementFinn> you guys like my joke? (as) [02:26] <AmazingPythor> I mean Japan would probably attack India anyways [02:26] <Keplers> Hitler would just need to have a bit of patience [02:26] <AmazingPythor> And that would start something [02:27] <ElementFinn> im gonna go guys c: [02:27] <ElementFinn> so bye c: [02:27] <AmazingPythor> \o :P [02:27] <ElementFinn> yeah ape [02:27] <Keplers> Hmmm [02:27] <Keplers> Japanese attack on India... [02:27] <Keplers> Who would help? [02:27] <T-007Bond> Why are the ants dancing on the jar? [02:27] <AmazingPythor> Or Australia [02:27] <Brick425> Kep, the Soviets weren't prepared for an attack, either. Stalin just liked big armies [02:27] <Keplers> Britain, maybe, but they're isolated. [02:27] <Keplers> Exactly, Brick [02:28] <T-007Bond> Because it said, "Twist to open " [02:28] <AmazingPythor> India was British territory, I thought? :P [02:28] <Keplers> The Brits wouldn't have T-34s, KV-1s and twenty million meatbags to save them :P [02:28] <Keplers> It was, AP, but how could they get to India? [02:28] <AmazingPythor> Surely they still had troops positioned there. :{P [02:28] <AmazingPythor> I mean they'd be no match for Japan [02:28] <Keplers> It would involve crossing Nazi waters or Nazi land, both of which would get them torpedoed and force them to give up India for the sake of Germany. [02:29] <Keplers> Yeah, the garrisons at India wouldn't last long. :P [02:29] <AmazingPythor> They could go through Canada, which was still technically a British territory right :{P [02:29] <Keplers> This is always the problem with criticizing dictators [02:30] <Keplers> They could go through Canada, but that's a logistics drain. [02:30] <Keplers> It also would force them to sail right into Japanese Pacific waters for a looooong time before reaching friendly territory in Australia. [02:30] <Brick425> Stalin was so cool he Photoshopped pictures before computers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_images_in_the_Soviet_Union#Censorship_of_historical_photographs [02:31] <Keplers> LAWL wow [02:32] <AmazingPythor> Hm, that does sound problematic. :{P I'm assuming going around Africa would be impractical too. (derp) [02:32] <Brick425> It's kind of a scary thought tho. Being executed and then having every memory of your existence being erased [02:32] <Michaelyoda> o/ [02:32] <Keplers> 1984 [02:32] <Keplers> Or [02:32] <Keplers> Eastern Bloc [02:32] <Keplers> Or [02:33] <Keplers> China [02:33] <Keplers> North Korea doesn't have the money to buy photoshop (ym) [02:33] <AmazingPythor> There's a series of rivers in Africa that would make it faster, but some go through Vichy French territory and would take super long anyways. [02:34] <HyperFlash Studios> *scrolls up* [02:34] <HyperFlash Studios> Aww, Finn left [02:34] <HyperFlash Studios> ...before I could tell him how horrible that Sonic joke was :{P [02:34] <AmazingPythor> Japan DID almost reach Australia though. [02:35] <Brick425> If they did, they would run the hell away because intentionally flying a plane into a ship is one thing, but GIANT SPIDERS [02:35] <Keplers> Mmm [02:36] <AmazingPythor> This is like my plan to solve the economic crisis in Germany during ww1 by sneak attacking Italian Libya and getting resources from there. (y) [02:36] <Keplers> ... [02:36] <Keplers> no :P [02:37] <Keplers> Arguably the Nazis could have fixed their own problems by marching into Switzerland and then taking gold instead of depositing it [02:37] <AmazingPythor> I said WW1 jsyk. :P [02:37] <Keplers> America could have taxed Bill Gates at 80%-- oh wait [02:37] <Keplers> I know, AP [02:37] <Keplers> But they had postwar debt to fix too [02:38] <Brick425> Hitler needed Switzerland because they would still do business with him [02:38] <Keplers> Germany actually drew up very detailed plans for invading Switzerland [02:38] <AmazingPythor> Like assuming this is the later part of the war [02:38] <Keplers> These hindrances called Britain and Russia prevented that invasion since Switzerland was staying neutral anyway [02:39] <Keplers> Hilariously enough, both Britain and Germany also had plans to invade Ireland in case they sided with one of the other [02:39] <AmazingPythor> The Germans could probably send troops through Austria-Hungary, then cross the Mediterranean and potentially swiftly defeat Italian forces. :P [02:39] <AmazingPythor> I mean ww1 Italy sucked so [02:39] <Keplers> The UK feared that anti-British groups like the NRA would ally with the Nazis, and the Nazis feared that Ireland had closer ties to England than Germany [02:39] <Brick425> At least they can agree on one thing [02:39] <Keplers> Italy sucked in both wars, Ape [02:39] <Brick425> Ireland is a bunch of drunk, ginger, terrorists [02:39] <Keplers> Italy hasn't had a decent war since the Crusades [02:40] <AmazingPythor> Yeah, but at least after the first they could beat Ethiopia [02:40] <Keplers> (clap) [02:40] <Brick425> That's when you know you've made it [02:41] <Son of Elrond> Night peeps o/ [02:41] <Brick425> Let's be honest... When you think of pure military might, you think of the Italians [02:41] <Keplers> No, you know you've made it when you're in the stone age and can fend off people with everloving Gatling guns [02:41] <HyperFlash Studios> Nuuu [02:41] <HyperFlash Studios> Falafel [02:41] <AmazingPythor> Maybe in 50 AD, Brick. [02:42] <Keplers> Aztecs couldn't hold up to a few cannons [02:42] <Keplers> Zulus, though [02:42] <Keplers> They took on the British Empire at its height and actually scared them [02:42] <AmazingPythor> Anglo-Zanzibar War tho [02:42] <Brick425> ^ yes [02:42] <Brick425> Changed the world, that war [02:42] <AmazingPythor> That is the greatest military conflict of all time, right there. [02:43] <Keplers> *shortest [02:43] <Keplers> Not even Israel could outdo them [02:46] <Brick425> Yeah, he sprained his ankle, but he was back on his feet in a day or two [02:46] <Keplers> A Mongolian horse regiment attacked a Nazi platoon [02:46] <Keplers> The Nazis sustained no injuries and the Mongolians were all killed [02:46] <AmazingPythor> Did they use their superior Mongol strategy to- Oh. [02:46] <Brick425> rest in technology [02:46] <Brick425> Something about the phrase "Mongolian horse regiment" is hilarious [02:47] <Codyn> o/ [02:47] <Brick425> o/ [02:47] <HyperFlash Studios> Yo Cody o/ [02:47] <Codyn> howdy o/ [02:48] <AmazingPythor> Okay one more thing [02:48] <AmazingPythor> Invading Russia did not work out for Poland either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Moscow_(1612) [02:50] <AmazingPythor> Or Lithuania. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian%E2%80%93Muscovite_War_(1368%E2%80%9372) [02:50] <Brick425> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/05/12/world-war-ii-s-strangest-battle-when-americans-and-germans-fought-together.html They should make a movie about this [02:50] <Keplers> On the reverse AP [02:50] <Keplers> Invading Poland was a miserable disaster for Russia [02:50] <Keplers> It was the Soviet defeat that shamed Lenin [02:51] <Keplers> ... Wait, Wehrmacht literally fought the SS [02:51] <AmazingPythor> For a second I thought you meant in 1939 and was confused [02:51] <AmazingPythor> Yeah Russia sucked then [02:51] <Keplers> I knew it happened toward the surrender, but I didn't know they collaborated with America [02:51] <Keplers> lol [02:51] <Keplers> Yeah, the Soviets attacked Poland literally 4 months after Poland became a country [02:51] <Keplers> They lost the Battle of Warsaw [02:51] <Keplers> Bigtime [02:52] <AmazingPythor> "Don't worry guys, we can take Tannenberg, just throw men at the machine guns." [02:52] <Beeofboys> smart [02:52] <Brick425> And with the Americans, no less @Kep [02:52] <Beeofboys> give up people [02:52] <Beeofboys> nbd [02:53] <Brick425> It'd be pretty cool to hear an MG42 and think, "They're on my side" [02:55] <Brick425> gtg [03:03] <HyperFlash Studios> test [03:03] <HyperFlash Studios> Oh no wonder chat died [03:03] <HyperFlash Studios> everyone left