Thread:Avalair/@comment-4845243-20150503040818/@comment-4845243-20150503182936

LBB, I appreciate the fact that you care about the wiki, but you are clearly too inactive to understand what is going on. Most of the things you are saying are false. I don't want to argue with you and I don't care about winning an argument, but for the sake of education I will respond to your post. Hopefully you can respond in good faith and not attack me. :)


 * Though what I don't get is why do you Administrators and Bureaucrats instead of solving a problem with a legitimate solution, instead shut it down like it's not a big deal?

We do solve problems, but the issue I brought up in this thread—COPPA—is not a problem. In fact, trying to enforce Wikia's compliance with COPPA would create a problem by showing personal information about minors and violating Wikia's ToU. So in fact, I am solving what would be become a problem by making this post and discussing things with Avalair.


 * I guess I would shove this problem to Wikia Officials since is the best way to do things or hey, maybe lets make this problem not a big deal so I don't have to deal with it! 

Here's where it becomes quite evident that you are not fully aware of the situation. This is not shoving problems off to Wikia staff. This is allowing Wikia staff to solve their own problems that are not our problems. It also should be noted that I am personally a w:c:VSTF and so I do make global blocks on those who engage in cross-wiki spam and vandalism. I am very much proactive in solving problems, but it's important that we don't create problems where none exist.


 * Or hey, let's have people make CU's about it and all we do is complain about it to kill it or have the problem die out. 

When there are problems with users who need to be globally blocked, I either run CU's and do the global blocks myself or report them to staff if it is outside my jurisdiction. I never just complain about it and do nothing — and if you were active you would know that. You have absolutely no proof for these accusations.


 * Screw that. Really, screw that. You Administrators and Bureaucrats are a shame to the good people on this wiki. That is the remaining ones left from your guys tyranny. No wonder all the good users left in the last two years. The admins and bureaucrats don't do nothing here, they're just lazy figureheads following their leader who loves drinking from his cup power. 

This is nothing but personal attacks with no basis in evidence. Do you actually follow our discussions? Do you actually look at the community discussions and votes? Do you actually pay attention to chat? Why are you attacking us when you have no idea what you're talking about? Also, all the good users have not left. That's extremely insulting to a lot of us who have stayed. Why are you so bitter? :-(


 * The leader isn't Drew anymore. It's Obi.

That's not really true. Drew was never the sole leader, and I have never been the sole leader. Why are you making this claim?


 * Recently over the years the truth is the admins and bureaucrats wern't fighting over themselves because of some rebellion. They were fighting over power of the wiki!!! In truth they not here to help the wiki but to control it.

Once again, this flies in the face of all evidence. We have not been fighting over power over the wiki. You're just making up a bunch of stuff without any evidence. Once again, do you actually read stuff? Do you actually know what's going on? '''The admins now have less power, not more. We are not a tyranny, we do not even control the wiki.'''


 * Why do you guys think Drew haven't been here as often as he use to? He knows things have gone bad on the wiki and no lead or control of its path, so he left it and is hiding away hoping that someday he'll forget this sad overtaking of it. He no longer leads the wiki.

LBB, seriously, you have no idea what you are talking about. Drew is inactive because of school. He posted on admin talk a few days ago saying that. I had a chat with him on LMBW not that long ago. Drew does not believe that stuff. Drew doesn't like how far the democracy has gone, true, but he recognizes that we have good motives. Unlike you, Drew is not accusing us of being evil tyrants. Again, stop saying stuff without evidence.


 * There is no democracy. The community votes was to make the community to like you, so you can control them.

What the heck? Then why has the community chosen some things that are contrary to my personal opinion? This is completely false. If you actually paid attention to the results of the votes you would know that I'm not controlling anyone. The wiki is composed of independent users who make there own decisions.


 *  I see you shut those up who opposed you.

Um, no. Check the recent votes. I gave my opinion and the majority of the community decided something against my opinion. Your claims fall flat in the face of evidence.


 * Now but only a few still do oppose this tyranny but in truth, you scared most of them into submission. The Admins and Buros now do nothing to oppose you. Whenever you ask for a vote on something, the admins and buro's have no choice but to vote WITH you or face your Wrath of Words. Of course there will be those few who will disagree with me, but hey this is no lie. 

LBB, you are really good at making up stuff and being all dramatic about it. But your words have no basis in reality. There is no tyranny. The community is in control. I am tired and have no interest in ruling this community. I fought hard so that the community could lead itself, and now it's doing that, often disagreeing with my advice. I am in no way a tyrant. Please stop attacking me LBB. :-(

Also, the admins and bureaucrats often disagree with me. Just ask them. Why are you making up stuff when you could talk to people?


 * They, the Admins and Buros, live comfortable under your tyranny, they are free to do as they will. To Cuss, to use Innuendo as they please, and to not enforce the rules unless you oppose the tyranny.

Um, okay this is getting even more whacky. Cussing is not allowed. '''If you are referring to "hell" that was accepted by the community when I was inactive. I had nothing to do with that.''' Innuendo is also banned. I do not allow these things but will take action when they occur in chat. Please stop making false accusations when you have no idea what you are talking about and aren't even active in chat.


 * The chat is full of thugs, using innuendo without a care, and spamming like fools.

Well, not when I'm on. I don't approve of or allow this kind of thing. Why are you accusing me of that?


 * If you say anything about them, you can't do nothing but watch the other Admins and Bureaucrat support him and waive the charge away.

This isn't true at all. People can and do criticize admins/bureaucrats. Have you seen the admin feedback thread where we open ourselves up to feedback? Also, we don't control the wiki, the community does. The community often decides things I disagree with. '''I am not a ruler. I am not a tyrant. I am just a janitor with some influence because some people respect my opinion.'''

LBB, this was honestly really hurtful. I didn't think you would attack me like this, especially when what you say is not based off of evidence at all. I'm just a user like you all with some extra tools and influence based off of my reputation with others. I am not feared by people. I do not suppress opinions. I do not rule the wiki with an iron fist. You will find no evidence of this anywhere. Please rescind your unkind and uncalled for comments about me. :/ If you don't want to, okay, you have freedom of speech. But I am hurt by this.