LEGO Message Boards Wiki:Chat/Logs/11 November 2015

 [04:47]  Good morning [04:48]  Oh brother, the MBs have actually gotten worse. There's a bunch of new replies on one of my old topics, and.. wow. :P [04:49]  Also my favourite post ever directed at me: [04:49]  "Excuse me for my foul language, but you are not realizing that Kate IS A PRINCESS AND YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN ANYTHING." [04:50]  it's glorious, oh man. [04:51]  in b4 *crashes in* [04:52]  My favourite post ever is reserved for "it should fly" [04:52]  obviously better in context. [04:53]  *he needs to fly [04:56]  https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/12191341_10153273330432104_3710948277070201314_o.jpg rou totally looks like ed sheeran in that picture [05:11]  who is loney on the boards? [05:22]  o/ [05:23]  TheLoneMinifigure [05:24]  I'm not all that big, never really was even though I've been there for over 4 years. :P [05:25]  alright. =P [05:25] <Anonymous Kontributor> hey guys :P [05:26] <Jenna Schultz> o/ [05:26] <Anonymous Kontributor> Guys [05:26] <Anonymous Kontributor> Why Ed doesn't have a GF? [05:26] <Anonymous Kontributor> :P [05:27] <Anonymous Kontributor> bcuz Sheeran away :P [05:27] <Anonymous Kontributor> (derp) [05:28] <Loney 97> I'm slightly famous for posting the complete lyrics to One Direction's Story of My Life in the story of your life topic. :P [05:28] <Loney 97> that was beautiful. [05:28] <Loney 97> Also my It's ALL a LIE! topic. [05:28] <Jenna Schultz> https://community.lego.com/t5/DISNEY-PRINCESS/It-s-All-a-LIE/m-p/9100179#U9100179 &lt;Is this a joke? [05:28] <Loney 97> I don't know, you tell me. :P [05:29] <Jenna Schultz> It's not funny if it is. [05:29] <Loney 97> And read the comments there are some real gems in there. :P [05:29] <Loney 97> Oh no I'm not going to get on your bad side now am I? [05:29] <Jenna Schultz> Well your posts there are a bit disturbing. [05:30] <Jenna Schultz> I assume you're a better person than that, so no [05:30] <Jenna Schultz> You aren't on my bad side [05:30] <Aravis Tarkheena> I like that topic [05:30] <Anonymous Kontributor> ...I Always forget who are new people... [05:31] <Aravis Tarkheena> I like it that no one actually cares that Kate is only a duchess and not a princess [05:31] <Aravis Tarkheena> But then, I guess most of the kids would be too young to remember the wedding and when that was an issue [05:33] <GuacamoleCCXR> Wouldn't you become a princess if your dad conquered a country and proclaimed himself king [05:34] <Aravis Tarkheena> That depends [05:34] <Aravis Tarkheena> because if your dad can do that, he can also call you whatever he wants [05:34] <GuacamoleCCXR> But we're talking technicalities [05:34] <Aravis Tarkheena> And according to Loney, the way to be a princess is to "be the daughter of an actual king" [05:35] <GuacamoleCCXR> so even assuming it takes the international community to recognise him for it to be official, it's still /possible/ [05:35] <GuacamoleCCXR> just, endlessly unlikely [05:35] <Aravis Tarkheena> So if your dad is an actual king, I guess you'd be a princess [05:35] <Aravis Tarkheena> I mean, not you [05:35] <Aravis Tarkheena> but if you were a girl [05:35] <GuacamoleCCXR> Guacamilla could be a princess [05:35] <Aravis Tarkheena> Absolutely [05:35] <Loney 97> The entire topic is a lie anyway, if you bother to read Wikipedia. [05:35] <EtherealSpirit> Just stopping by to say hi! O/ [05:36] <Aravis Tarkheena> Why hasn't a medieval spinoff been done of her? :P [05:36] <GuacamoleCCXR> I'm not sure if she's the princessy type, though [05:36] <EtherealSpirit> Have a good day/night. :) [05:36] <Loney 97> "In European countries, a woman who marries a prince will almost always become a princess, however, but a man who marries a princess will almost never become a prince, unless specifically created so." [05:36] <EtherealSpirit> Bye peeps! O/ [05:36] <GuacamoleCCXR> Because you put her in the 80s. :P [05:36] <Aravis Tarkheena> She'd be a unique princess [05:36] <Aravis Tarkheena> Well [05:36] <GuacamoleCCXR> Well technically [05:36] <Aravis Tarkheena> a crackfic must be written, then. :P [05:36] <GuacamoleCCXR> I asked for her to be put in the 80s [05:36] <Aravis Tarkheena> Yes [05:36] <GuacamoleCCXR> so it's not your faukt [05:36] <Jenna Schultz> Little girls like princesses for a reason. To them, it's not about royalty, it's about respect. It's not about being the daughter of an actual king or queen, it's about being the daughter of parents who love you. It's about them feeling good. You just took that and crushed it. It was extremely unfair, and it wasn't your place to do that [05:36] <GuacamoleCCXR> *fault [05:36] <GuacamoleCCXR> But still [05:36] <Aravis Tarkheena> My parents never called me a princess [05:37] <Jenna Schultz> You just told them that they don't deserve that respect. You just told them that they're nothing [05:37] <GuacamoleCCXR> Not really [05:37] <Aravis Tarkheena> So I never thought of myself as one [05:37] <GuacamoleCCXR> he told them they weren't princesses [05:37] <GuacamoleCCXR> that's like telling me I'm not the CEO of McLaren [05:37] <Aravis Tarkheena> but seriously, if that's all kids are relying on to feel good, they have bigger issues [05:37] <Jenna Schultz> And why shouldn't they be princesses? [05:37] <Aravis Tarkheena> Because royalty is all a cute, fun scam [05:37] <GuacamoleCCXR> because that would break the definition of the word? [05:38] <Aravis Tarkheena> (that I like anyway) [05:38] <Aravis Tarkheena> and because it's not true. :P [05:38] <GuacamoleCCXR> *Roundworld royalty [05:38] <Aravis Tarkheena> They should not be princesses because they are not princesses. :P [05:38] <GuacamoleCCXR> exactly [05:38] <Jenna Schultz> Who cares about the word or what it means. Because to them, it means so much more. When I was younger, I thought I was a jedi. I wanted to be a jedi, and so I was. [05:38] <GuacamoleCCXR> you're being really really fascist right now by saying that just because they're royalty, they automatically deserve respect and no one else does. :P [05:39] <Aravis Tarkheena> But you were not a jedi, were you :P [05:39] <Aravis Tarkheena> It's important for them to tell between reality and make-believe [05:39] <GuacamoleCCXR> in fact, by pushing your point you're doing what you criticise. :P [05:39] <Jenna Schultz> I was one because that's exactly what I needed to be. I knew the real world, but being a jedi is more than that: it's knowing who you are. Being a princess is like that. [05:40] <Aravis Tarkheena> If they seriously think they're princesses, then perhaps a little acquaintment with reality would disenchant them [05:40] <Aravis Tarkheena> And if they truly believe in themselves, anyway, one topic is not going to ruin their lives, right (derp) [05:40] <GuacamoleCCXR> Find me a dictionary that states the defintion of the word "Princess" to be a person who knows who they are [05:40] <GuacamoleCCXR> As soon as you do that, I'll admit you have won, okay? [05:40] <GuacamoleCCXR> Have fun. :P [05:40] <Aravis Tarkheena> especially since everyone on the internet lies and all that [05:41] <Bioniclefan1> You can't be a Jedi by just saying you're a Jedi. :p [05:41] <Jenna Schultz> Are you guys teenagers or adults? [05:41] <Aravis Tarkheena> Coming of age. :P [05:41] <Bioniclefan1> Both [05:41] <Aravis Tarkheena> Becoming acquainted with reality. :P [05:41] <GuacamoleCCXR> the 7th prime number [05:41] <GuacamoleCCXR> if you don't count the trivial ones [05:42] <Jenna Schultz> Well either way, you're acting like that 8 year old who has to be right because he tells himself he's smarter than everyone else. [05:42] <Aravis Tarkheena> Isn't that so telling, Guac :P [05:42] <GuacamoleCCXR> Not really [05:42] <Jenna Schultz> It's not about definitions, whatsoever [05:42] <GuacamoleCCXR> You're just ignoring the conventions of language. :P [05:42] <GuacamoleCCXR> It's always about definitions. :P [05:42] <Aravis Tarkheena> If there are no definitions, nothing means anything [05:42] <Loney 97> My internet cut out so I don't know what was said. [05:42] <Aravis Tarkheena> Literally. :P [05:42] <GuacamoleCCXR> One thing you'll learn someday in your life is that as long as you can argue semantics, you win. :P [05:43] <Jenna Schultz> It [05:43] <Aravis Tarkheena> you ENTP [05:43] <Aravis Tarkheena> :P [05:43] <Jenna Schultz> is not about winning. It's about what's right. Now, tell me, why is telling a little girl that they're not a princess right? [05:43] <Jenna Schultz> Why is crushing their dreams right? [05:43] <Aravis Tarkheena> Because otherwise, the kid is believing a lie. [05:43] <Loney 97> But being a princess doesn't mean you're graceful. It doesn't mean you're pretty. It doesn't mean you're special, or perfect, or respected, or anything. [05:43] <GuacamoleCCXR> Because it's simply correct [05:43] <GuacamoleCCXR> there's no morals in language. :P [05:43] <Aravis Tarkheena> If I tell you that you're a millionaire, is that alright [05:43] <Loney 97> If is a girl is any of those things, tell her that. [05:44] <Aravis Tarkheena> Are you a millionaire because I tell you so? I don't think so [05:44] <Jenna Schultz> Princesses aren't perfect. Nobody's perfect [05:44] <Bioniclefan1> If everyone can be a princess so easily, it must not be that special. [05:44] <Loney 97> But don't tell her she's a princess if it isn't true. [05:44] <Aravis Tarkheena> A kid is not a princess if you call her one [05:45] <Jenna Schultz> Tell me why kids where costumes on halloween. [05:45] <Aravis Tarkheena> If it's about childhood romance and dreams, sure, give them a dress and tell them to play Princess for an hour [05:45] <Jenna Schultz> wear* [05:45] <Loney 97> Of course there's the whole child of God thing which is completely alright, not going to argue against it at all. [05:45] <Aravis Tarkheena> But that's childhood romance, not reality [05:45] <GuacamoleCCXR> The problem is that you assign a meaning to the term "princess" that it doesn't inherently have; not only that, you also argue that these traits are /exclusive/ to princesses [05:45] <Loney 97> Exactly Guac. [05:45] <Jenna Schultz> I'm not arguing that they're exclusive to princesses [05:45] <GuacamoleCCXR> Yes you are [05:45] <Loney 97> Princesses can be spoiled mean disgusting little brats. [05:46] <GuacamoleCCXR> You literally said that telling them they're not a princess is equivalent to telling them they're not respected [05:46] <GuacamoleCCXR> Should I quote [05:46] <Loney 97> Saying someone has the personality of a princess is quite ridiculous. :P [05:46] <GuacamoleCCXR> "6:37 [05:46] <GuacamoleCCXR> Jenna Schultz [05:46] <GuacamoleCCXR> You just told them that they don't deserve that respect. You just told them that they're nothing" [05:46] <Jenna Schultz> No, you telling them they're not what they want to be, you telling them that they aren't special, can hurt. It's like saying they aren't respected [05:46] <Jenna Schultz> Same goes for me as a jedi [05:47] <Jenna Schultz> If you told me I wasn't a jedi, I wouldn't be very happy with you [05:47] <Aravis Tarkheena> It's not saying they're not special, for Celestia's sake [05:47] <Aravis Tarkheena> If they get a math award at school and they're not a princess, they're still special [05:47] <Jenna Schultz> THEN STOP ARGUING THAT THEY AREN'T PRINCESSES. They do it to feel special [05:47] <Loney 97> As far as I know Jedi is a religion and craft that a person is trained in, anyone can be a Jedi providing they have a mentor to train them. [05:47] <Aravis Tarkheena> Something's messed up if they're relying on anything that anyone tells them to be special [05:47] <GuacamoleCCXR> It doesn't even make sense; you don't earn being a princess, royalty is not meritocratic [05:47] <Aravis Tarkheena> You have to feel personally special inside (sie) [05:48] <Aravis Tarkheena> (except in pony worlds) [05:48] <Loney 97> If they're special, tell them they're special because they are. [05:48] <GuacamoleCCXR> Why on Earth would you choose such a concept to convey specialness? [05:48] <Aravis Tarkheena> (and Pennyroyal) [05:48] <Jenna Schultz> See, Aravis? To feel special on the inside, they have to believe they really are special [05:48] <Jenna Schultz> That's whyb they choose to be princesses [05:48] <GuacamoleCCXR> Specialness isn't exclusive to princesses [05:48] <Aravis Tarkheena> And if it takes being a princess to be that, well, [05:48] <Aravis Tarkheena> I'm sorry [05:48] <Aravis Tarkheena> but these kids are going to die when they get older [05:48] <Jenna Schultz> Not saying it is exclusive. That's why I was a jedi [05:49] <Jenna Schultz> That's why I chose to be a jedi [05:49] <GuacamoleCCXR> But breaking the definition of a word doesn't make you special, nor does it give you traits you don't have without that word [05:50] <Aravis Tarkheena> It just sets you up to fail English [05:50] <GuacamoleCCXR> It literally does not do anything but accelerate the detereoration on the English language. :P [05:50] <Aravis Tarkheena> And that doesn't feel very special [05:50] <GuacamoleCCXR> *rio [05:50] <Aravis Tarkheena> Cause if you fail English you can't graduate high school [05:50] <GuacamoleCCXR> That was ironic [05:50] <GuacamoleCCXR> Well, loosely ironic. [05:50] <GuacamoleCCXR> Not the textbook example. [05:51] <Jenna Schultz> Oh, shut up. You two sound terribly pessimistic. If you guys feel comfortable walking up to someone and telling them they aren't special, you must be terrible people [05:51] <Aravis Tarkheena> Or you can just throw reality out the window and follow Larson's words: "A princess of the shield is courageous. She is compassionate. She is kind, and she is disciplined. Without these four core values, a girl may have all the crowns and castles she wants, but she will be no more a princess than a dragon." [05:52] <GuacamoleCCXR> ad hominem fallacy [05:52] <GuacamoleCCXR> I rest my case :P [05:52] <GuacamoleCCXR> Q.E.D., or soemthing. :P [05:52] <Aravis Tarkheena> you ENTP :P [05:52] <GuacamoleCCXR> *something [05:52] <Aravis Tarkheena> I don't recall ever walking up to anyone and telling them of their worthlessness [05:53] <Alemas2005> Jenna, it's no use. [05:53] <Alemas2005> Those two are hardcore realists. :P [05:53] <Aravis Tarkheena> And I'd feel very uncomfortable while doing so [05:53] <GuacamoleCCXR> I'm having way too much fun with that; I should really learn all the logical fallacies by heart and shout them at people. :P [05:53] <Loney 97> That isn't it at all Jenna, I love to tell people they're special, because they are. But telling them they're a princess doesn't convey that, any snot nosed little punk can be a princess providing they are born into it. [05:53] <Aravis Tarkheena> Perhaps I am a terrible person, but not because I don't think people are special. :P [05:53] <Aravis Tarkheena> And what dad said. :P [05:54] <Slicer Vorzakh> What's going on [05:54] <Aravis Tarkheena> I just dislike the misuse of good English. :P [05:54] <Aravis Tarkheena> And I think it's unhealthy for kids to be too detached from reality. :P [05:54] <GuacamoleCCXR> You're not a princess, Slice [05:54] <GuacamoleCCXR> Sorry [05:54] <Slicer Vorzakh> k [05:55] <Aravis Tarkheena> and you're not whatever you pretended to be as a kid [05:55] <Aravis Tarkheena> it's not that I don't know what it's like [05:55] <Aravis Tarkheena> For 2 years I was unabashedly a ninja, but at the end of the day I always knew I was just a derp [05:55] <Aravis Tarkheena> but a special derp [05:56] <Aravis Tarkheena> for other reasons [05:56] <Aravis Tarkheena> and that was fine :P [05:56] <Loney 97> *claps* [05:57] <Loney 97> Jenna, do you see our point? :P [05:58] <GuacamoleCCXR> Hm, I've always been some sort of space marine. :P [05:58] <Aravis Tarkheena> Fitting. :P [05:59] <GuacamoleCCXR> Isn't it? :P [06:00] <Loney 97> two minutes of silence. [06:00] <Aravis Tarkheena> Or having adventures in labyrinths under Kindergarten? :P [06:00] <GuacamoleCCXR> That was earlier. :P [06:01] <Aravis Tarkheena> Okay. :P [06:01] <Jenna Schultz> No. I don't because you're telling me why people need to feel special. You guys are telling me that people are special and that they don't need to be princesses or jedi or ninjas to be special, but you argued that they aren't. You even told them that they aren't. You're telling me that they aren't princesses or jedi or ninjas and that they can't be what they want to be. They know the difference between real life and fantasy, but sometimes, people just need fantasy. People need that fantasy to remind them who they are. After all, that's basically what Batman does for a living. He tells himself he's a hero, and so he is, but if you took that away from him, he's just an average chap [06:01] <GuacamoleCCXR> Later I didn't really tell people about it anymore; it was just kind of a story I was weaving in my head for several continuous years. :P [06:01] <Alemas2005> *Sigh* [06:01] <Aravis Tarkheena> Batman... /is/ a hero? [06:01] <Aravis Tarkheena> He actually does stuff. [06:01] <Bioniclefan1> ^ [06:02] <GuacamoleCCXR> Yeah [06:02] <Jenna Schultz> Because he tells himself he is a hero [06:02] <Alemas2005> Guac, Ara. :P [06:02] <Alemas2005> You are CMs. :P [06:02] <Alemas2005> Why are you arguing? [06:02] <GuacamoleCCXR> Telling myself I'm an aerospace engineer won't actually make me get my Master degree. :P [06:02] <GuacamoleCCXR> I'll have to do stuff to get there. :P [06:02] <Jenna Schultz> Who's to say that little jedi on the corner of the street won't grow up to do stuff? [06:02] <Aravis Tarkheena> So again, if I tell you that you're a millionaire, you have a million dollars? :P [06:02] <Bioniclefan1> No, because his parents were shot and he has the capabilities [06:02] <Aravis Tarkheena> He's not a jedi at the moment. :P [06:02] <Alemas2005> Why are you picking on Jenna for her opinion? [06:02] <GuacamoleCCXR> Alemas, because debating isn't inherently bad [06:03] <Aravis Tarkheena> If he's a jedi in 30 years, I'll call him one. :P [06:03] <Alemas2005> This sounds like a hostile debate, really. [06:03] <Aravis Tarkheena> And I wouldn't seriously tell the kids who come to the door on Halloween that their night is a lie. :P [06:03] <Alemas2005> I mean, it led to a line of caps from Jenna... [06:03] <Alemas2005> And a "Oh, shut up."... [06:03] <Alemas2005> So maybe you should stop? [06:03] <Alemas2005> Talk about other things?