Board Thread:Community Voting/@comment-4845243-20150718191558/@comment-5225143-20150719005047

Obi the LEGO Fan wrote: @Agent Spy:

I have a few things to say that are highly relevant to your argument.

1) The community already voted to disallow discussions on admin talk that impact the entire community. Thus, nothing that is relevant to bureaucrat rights should be discussed on admin talk.

2) As a corollary, most admin discussions are already public. The exceptions are blocks, bureaucrat promotions, and some demotions. Blocks do not usually impact the entire wiki, unless it is to prevent the wiki from being vandalized/trolled and are in the exclusive purview of the admin team. Bureaucrat promotions technically are already within the purview of the community. Demotions can be discussed by the community, and it is a matter of debate whether we should be allowed to carry them out on admin talk or not.

3) According to recent votes, the admins now lack the authority to promote anyone to any user right without involving the rest of the community. However, there is a discrepancy between that and the fact that no Requests for Bureaucrat has actually been created. To be in alignment with our current policy, a RfB is necessary. 1) I realize that most discussions take place on the wiki, and it is why I only mentioned discussions involving users being private.

2) Seeing the opinion of an administrator on a private discussion could potentially change the mind of someone who would have voted yes to voting no, or voting no to voting yes. Off-topic: I am highly opposed to the fact that discussions about blocks are carried out on the wiki, but that doesn't matter since the vote already passed and I'm inactive.

3) Policies can be modified.

Anyway, it seems there is already a very strong support of adding RfB, so two people voting against adding RfB probably won't change anything.