Board Thread:Community Discussions/@comment-5374144-20161222055559/@comment-4845243-20161231091511

BraveNewRoyalty wrote: Obi the LEGO Fan wrote: A lot of the conversation in this thread seems a little off the mark. Chat has been fine recently. Moderation has been competent, people haven't been banned, nothing terrible has been reported.

Not only that, but chat has been leniently moderated. It's been quite chill lately, at least when I've been on. Plenty of stuff is allowed, no one's fun is being ruined by new oppressive crackdowns.

Such a comprehensive list is definitely not needed. What's needed is common sense and decency. It seems to me the only problem is that a few select users just don't know how to handle themselves on chat. We shouldn't have to make an extensive, tedious master-list for the benefit of a few people who don't know how to behave.

These users should take their cues from the vast majority of people on this wiki, who use chat without getting banned. I think we all know full well that the common sense or honor system we have been trying to promote for the last year just isn't working. One's common sense is completely different from another's, as seen between the conflict between me saying things that I believed were to be protected under the common sense rule, with support of others, and against what an admin (Rio at the time) believed to be protected under the same rule, with support of the other admins. It is clear that '''common sense isn't working. '''To keep promoting that system is detrimental.

Now I agree that my actions and "ableist" comments were quite on the rude side, there's no denying that. The problem that I would like to fix is consitency. Perhaps this has changed, but other mods and admins would allow me to say those things without any turbulence. There is absolutely nothing right with different parts of our judicary system enforcing different rules at the same time, which is exactly why this list was proposed, and exactly why it should be implemented. If all of our cm/admin team had the same knowledge and interpretation, we wouldn't have to have this, but it is clear that they do not. I definitely see your point, but I think the problem of consistency was solved already. The admin team came to a consensus — all active admins agreed with the main point I made in my blog. I made that blog at their prompting after discussing the issue with them. So the admins all agree.

After we agreed, we told the moderators to comply with our consensus via my blog. Moderators who blatantly disregarded this were demoted or warned via private messages.

Thus, there has no longer been a disagreement. And as a result there haven't been any conflicts of the sort after you and Keplers were banned.