User:Agent Spy/ChatLogs/15 January 2014

 [01:01]  Gs, I've been here since the wiki was pretty much inactive [01:01]  Obi @Han [01:01]  My vocabulary is for me to decide. [01:02]  It's gotten worse because of all the idiots that decided to come here [01:02]  I've been here 3 years. things have changed. a lot. :P [01:02]  All the mature people get overwhelmed by trolls [01:02]  Sorry for joining (er) [01:02]  But really, like LFY said, LMBW was never a "good wiki" [01:02]  Per Han, again. [01:02]  #mainlyrys [01:02]  Hey o/ [01:02]  Hello, Spy. [01:02]  AS o/ [01:02]  And in many cases the mature people turn into the trolls. [01:02]  I've been on here longer than any of you, and nobody on chat right now would be ban ned ATM really [01:02] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> It was better than it was now. [01:02] <Klintran> In terms of other wikis, tbh [01:02] <Hansologirl> Per Sarah [01:02] <Gslover1> @LFY: Not now, during all the fighting. [01:02] <I'mDivergent> I'm going [01:02] <Cricket62> Im like the only person here who's stuck to one account :P [01:02] <Klintran> Han/Sarah: You weren't here, were you? [01:02] <I'mDivergent> Rose = Sarah [01:02] <Cricket62> Ya'll are dupes [01:02] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Everyone who dislikes me, would you mind telling me? [01:03] <I'mDivergent> Peace (peace) [01:03] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Divergent... [01:03] <Klintran> Arguments like this wouldn't be allowed like this, but Sarah, take in mind, you started this. [01:03] <I'mDivergent> I dislike you [01:03] <Legofanyoda1547> The wiki wasn't better in 2011 or 2 [01:03] <Cricket62> I dislike you [01:03] <Gslover1> I do not dislike you, Sarah. [01:03] <Legofanyoda1547> *12 [01:03] <Roseann Shadowflame> I AM NOT SARAH! [01:03] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Do not accuse people of such things if you have no solid evidence to back it up. [01:03] <Hansologirl> There are so many fights..we're supposed to be friends :/ [01:03] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Why do you dislike me, Cricket, Divergent? [01:03] <Klintran> We had dropped the convo, and you came on and started it again. [01:03] <TwistedAlpha> Sarah, you haven't even seen Alemas yet... [01:03] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> No you had not, Klintran. [01:03] <I'mDivergent> Is your avie people kissing? =S [01:03] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> I have in fact, TwistedAlpha. [01:03] <TwistedAlpha> Eh. [01:03] <Cricket62> It is :P [01:03] <Cricket62> BAN [01:03] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> But his is more reasonable than what you are saying is. [01:03] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> No. [01:03] <Cricket62> PG AUDIENCE ONLY [01:03] <TwistedAlpha> Seen how he treats new users or ones that aren't on much? [01:03] <TwistedAlpha> Well, did. [01:04] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Yes, TwistedAlpha. [01:04] <Hansologirl> She is not Rose, I assure you [01:04] <I'mDivergent> I FEEL TIPSY! (ca) [01:04] <Cricket62> Alemas is normal :P [01:04] <Gslover1> http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb1378400512/common/avatars/thumb/d/d1/6313403.png/150px-6313403.png.jpg [01:04] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> But his has paranoia behind it and is much more reasonable than what you did. [01:04] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Tell me, do any of you dislike Jessica? [01:04] <TwistedAlpha> What did I do? [01:04] <I'mDivergent> Oh :P [01:04] <Gslover1> It's a perfectly normal Avatar guys, stop it. [01:04] <Cricket62> oh :P [01:04] <Cricket62> omg divergent.. you and me.. WE'RE DIVERGENT [01:04] <I'mDivergent> (GASP) [01:04] <Cricket62> Our minds are an enigma. [01:04] <Cricket62> (GASP) [01:05] <I'mDivergent> Cakey ;3 [01:05] <Klintran> .... [01:05] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> You tell me that I've never met Alemas. [01:05] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Yet you do exactly what he does, with absolutely no reason other than the intent of upsetting both myself and Jessica behind it? [01:05] <Cricket62> Let our souls disintegrate into fragments of stars and grandeur. (gasp) [01:05] <TwistedAlpha> I do not... [01:05] <I'mDivergent> Gali o/ [01:05] <Satoshi2> Frodo \o [01:05] <Gslover1> Hello, Sato. [01:06] <I'mDivergent> I made Divpedia :P [01:06] <I'mDivergent> Wanna be Admin [01:06] <Satoshi2> Great. :p [01:06] <Klintran> Lol, Sarah, props on getting a whole wiki to laugh at you. :P [01:06] <Klintran> That takes skill. [01:06] <I'mDivergent> (clapz) [01:06] <I'mDivergent> :c [01:06] <Cricket62> Let out minds rotate amongst the gorgeous galaxies of nebulas and elation! [01:06] <Hansologirl> Rose is my best friend on here..if it wasn't for her and the few sain people left I can still call friends..I would have left long ago [01:06] <Cricket62> The whole wiki's never even laughed at me before (ys) [01:06] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> The only people who laugh at me are the ones who have no logical response, Klintran. [01:06] <Klintran> Han, no need for a pity-party here, not to be taken harsh [01:06] <I'mDivergent> Me and Han aren't friends anymore :c [01:06] <Hansologirl> Sarah has more sense than anyone one here [01:06] <Klintran> Sarah, I guess you speak of most of the older admins? [01:07] <Klintran> Because that's who's laughing. Surprise? [01:07] <Cricket62> This is just a silly girls vs boys thing. all of you shut up :P [01:07] <Satoshi2> What's the situation here? :P [01:07] <I'mDivergent> Boys &gt; Girls [01:07] <I'mDivergent> *starts a flame war* [01:07] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> I see no Admins on this chat at the moment, Klintran. [01:07] <Gslover1> @Han: I would have left too, if it were not for the small collection of nice people here. [01:07] <Klintran> Sarah, not here. We're at another wiki [01:07] <Hansologirl> Exactly Gs [01:07] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> And also, I have talked with multiple of your administrators. [01:07] <Cricket62> we all need to suck it up, accept our roles :P [01:07] <Klintran> and nxt is actually here [01:07] <Klintran> Logging this [01:07] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Ah, okay. Then may I see? [01:07] <Klintran> He's using an invisible code [01:07] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> May I have a link? [01:08] <Cricket62> Administrators lol [01:08] <Klintran> It's a "secret wiki" for a reason (YDS) [01:08] <I'mDivergent> HAI NXTY! :3 [01:08] <I'mDivergent> WB AGAIN o/ [01:08] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Then why are you there? [01:08] <I'mDivergent> ;p [01:08] <Hansologirl> I'll Be back later.. [01:08] <Gslover1> For reasons I do not understand, Klint. Although there seems to be more wikis every month for such things. [01:08] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> I have no proof it exists. Nobody does, except you. [01:08] <Gslover1> Okay, Han. See you later. [01:08] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> And your reputation is... [01:09] <Legofanyoda1547> I know it exists [01:09] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> ...less than pristine. [01:09] <Klintran> Sarah, maybe because I /used/ to be a highly respected person here...? [01:09] <Cricket62> Divergent. Would you be fond of to unite with me in an epic voyage to recuperate the wiki? [01:09] <Legofanyoda1547> I'm at it right now actually [01:09] <I'mDivergent> Sure Cricket :3 [01:09] <Klintran> And I'm still quite mature in other places, just not here anymore, because this wiki is hopeless. [01:09] <Legofanyoda1547> ^same [01:09] <Gslover1> Klint, that is no excuse to break rules and be mean. :( [01:09] <I'mDivergent> Spam giving likes and still not ban ned :p [01:09] <Satoshi2> Seriously, what's the discussion here? :P [01:10] <Klintran> And if you really guys want proof, I'll get User:LegoI3rickI3uilder to come on here soon as he's back from afking. [01:10] <Klintran> He's there right now [01:10] <Klintran> (ys) [01:10] <Gslover1> The discussing is on the subject of this fallen wiki and its community. [01:10] <Satoshi2> Ah. [01:10] <Gslover1> Hello, Clutch. [01:10] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Then give me the proof. [01:10] <Legofanyoda1547> LBB was also a former admin who happened to be a great one [01:10] <Satoshi2> I agree that this wiki is a mess. [01:10] <ClutchTheGreat> He's at dinner or somethin' [01:10] <Cricket62> That is great, Divergent. Let us embark on this expedition to formulate this wiki a vaguely enhanced and a reduced amount of dreadful position of immense things. [01:10] <Cricket62> I can get LBB in a flash [01:11] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Get him. [01:11] <Klintran> Sarah, he's AFK [01:11] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> I want to hear this. [01:11] <Klintran> as soon as he's back though. [01:11] <Cricket62> Wait actually, he's been offline for exactly 22 hours. [01:11] <I'mDivergent> Get a life, Sarah. [01:11] <Cricket62> usually he's on [01:11] <Gslover1> Can't you contact him at the other wiki, Klint? [01:11] <Satoshi2> Frodo &gt;.&lt; [01:11] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> I want to hear about how the administrators of a wiki, who were entrusted by the leader, laugh at what I'm saying. [01:11] <Klintran> He's AFK, Gs [01:11] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Divergent. [01:11] <Cricket62> Yes, Sarah, obtain an existence. [01:11] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Why are you so opposed to me? [01:11] <Klintran> Eating dinner from what Clutch says [01:11] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Is it because I'm providing logical arguments? [01:12] <Cricket62> You are not chilly like Divergent is chilly. [01:12] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> None of you have given arguments in a calm, polite manner against what I've said. [01:12] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> All you've done are hateful things. Telling me to get a life, to just leave... [01:12] <Klintran> Sarah, you came here and started this whole thing [01:12] <Klintran> Deal with it [01:12] <I'mDivergent> Chili [01:12] <Klintran> We had stopped. [01:12] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Yet never once have you provided a real argument. [01:12] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> I thought Jessica started it, Klintran. [01:12] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Oh no you had not. [01:12] <Cricket62> You overuse the word, "logical", Sarah. I advo cat e to discontinue. [01:12] <Satoshi2> What is it that Sarah is arguing here? [01:12] <I'mDivergent> Ari, you should go /afk... :P [01:12] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> I will use the word as many times as I want. [01:12] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Tell me... [01:12] <Klintran> Lol, you are obviously too naive to understand, Sarah. I'm not gonna deal with this anymore. [01:12] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> If I was on your side on this entire manner, would you react the same as you are now? [01:12] <Gslover1> Sarah, they oppose you because they oppose every user with self-respect and manners. [01:13] <Klintran> Going back to the other wiki, bye. [01:13] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Ah. [01:13] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> That is understandable. [01:13] <Cricket62> You are bothering the wiki's most redoubtable hobgoblin. (ys) [01:13] <Kitty Kat24 :)> What's wrong? :( [01:13] <Gslover1> Really, you guys have NO manners here. [01:13] <Satoshi2> @Kitty: Not sure, everyone's too busy to respond. :P [01:13] <Klintran> Gslover, it's called "having an explicit opinion" [01:13] <ClutchTheGreat> Big bro (sie) [01:13] <Satoshi2> But I'm not complainging. [01:13] <Klintran> sometimes those need to be shared. [01:13] <Cricket62> Even I? Gslover, do not tell me you fail to see the politeness of which I speak. (ys) [01:13] <Legofanyoda1547> I could get a bureaucrat on here right now if you wanted actually [01:13] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Basically, Klintran, Divergent, and Cricket are being trolls who cannot respond to valid arguments, Satoshi. [01:13] <Cricket62> I worship satoshi2. [01:14] <Bigbudcat> Yup. I am back. [01:14] <Cricket62> Bbc :) [01:14] <Satoshi2> @Sarah: Thanks. [01:14] <Satoshi2> @Crick: Srsly? (uh) [01:14] <Klintran> Lol, Sarah, I love how /we're/ accused of trolling, when we had stopped. [01:14] <Cricket62> BBc was my hero back in the day :p [01:14] <Cricket62> /we/ [01:14] <Bigbudcat> :P [01:14] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> I was watching it, Klintran. [01:14] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> I was watching it all. [01:14] <Gslover1> I said nothing of having different opinions or speaking politely. I said manners. You act rude, even if you say it "nicely". [01:14] <I'mDivergent> xD I just spam gave myself 30 likes! :D [01:15] <Klintran> I hadn't said anything for 5 minutes, Sarah [01:15] <Cricket62> I was watching it all. (ss) [01:15] <Cricket62> Gslover don't turn on me now [01:15] <I'mDivergent> (fp) [01:15] <Cricket62> Don't be basic (slap) [01:15] <Cricket62> no slap :( [01:15] <AG-SYSTEMS> o/ [01:15] <Gslover1> I'm not turning on you or anyone else. Just be nice to people, to users. [01:16] <Cricket62> I am nice. (ss) [01:16] <Gslover1> Hello, AG. Hello, Legofan. [01:16] <Klintran> I love how there's actually an admin here watching. :P [01:16] <I'mDivergent> AG! o/ [01:16] <Klintran> #Nxtstep101ftw [01:16] <AG-SYSTEMS> Argh. GTG. [01:16] <Cricket62> brb gotta build a chair [01:16] <AG-SYSTEMS> * AG-SYSTEMS is out! (PEACE) [01:16] <Gslover1> Bye, AG. [01:16] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Klintran, is the leader of your wiki on the secret chat? [01:16] <Cricket62> LOL [01:16] <Klintran> No [01:16] <Cricket62> Leader of the wiki [01:16] <Klintran> That's Drew. xD [01:16] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Hmm. [01:16] <Cricket62> lol'd brb [01:16] <Cricket62> (PEACE) [01:16] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Wonder what he'll think of this. [01:16] <Satoshi2> Uh oh, is this about the Klintism wiki? [01:16] <Klintran> No. [01:16] <I'mDivergent> He'll ban you for being Rose [01:16] <Satoshi2> Nah o/ [01:16] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> I'm certain he'll absolutely love this all. [01:17] <Nehpets700> o/ [01:17] <Satoshi2> *Neh [01:17] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> I'm not Jessica, Divergent. [01:17] <AG-SYSTEMS> Iphone chat :D [01:17] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Maybe it hasn't occurred to you, but we are not the same person. [01:17] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> You are only accusing me of being a dupe because you have, like I said, no reasonable response. [01:17] <Klintran> Drew is CheckUser [01:17] <Klintran> He'll just run an IP check on you if you insist so [01:17] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Note how you never respond to me telling you that you have no response. [01:17] <AG-SYSTEMS> I'll be an observer now. My sis needed my laptop. [01:17] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> We're neighbors, Klintran... [01:17] <Gslover1> Hello, Nehpets. [01:17] <Klintran> So you'll have different IPs. [01:18] <Klintran> IPs are computer connected [01:18] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> We share the internet as well. Our houses are right next to each other. [01:18] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> We practically live in the same house. [01:18] <Klintran> seeing as you and Roseann are on at the same time, it mean's different computers, right? [01:18] <I'mDivergent> Clutch Ping [01:18] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Oh, you'd be surprised. [01:18] <ClutchTheGreat> what [01:18] <Klintran> ..Where is the "logical" answer to my question, Sarah? [01:19] <I'mDivergent> Is Rose, Sarah? [01:19] <ClutchTheGreat> huh [01:19] <Klintran> Listen, Sarah. What proof can you give that you aren't Roseann? [01:19] <ClutchTheGreat> wat [01:19] <Klintran> She's AFK when you talk [01:19] <I'mDivergent> Is she? [01:19] <Klintran> You AFK when she talks [01:19] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> We're watching each other, Klintran. [01:19] <AG-SYSTEMS> @SFS, are you related to ThePeggleded Ninja? [01:19] <Bigbudcat> *raises hand meekly* Burden of proof is usually on the accuser. *sits back down meekly* [01:20] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Just because it appears to be so does not mean it is. [01:20] <Satoshi2> I should probably leave, before I say something stupid and offensive. [01:20] <Klintran> Well, the CheckUser will find out that. :) [01:20] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Oh, good luck with that. [01:20] <AG-SYSTEMS> Bur Sato. [01:21] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> What would you say if he's already checked them both, Klintran? :) [01:21] <AG-SYSTEMS> *Bye [01:21] <Klintran> I'd ask him what it was. (YDS) [01:21] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> That would be an invasion of privacy, and he has no authority to tell you. [01:21] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> And besides, why would you need to know? [01:21] <Bgirlabby> o/ [01:21] <Klintran> because dupli cat e accounts are against the rules. [01:22] <Gslover1> Hello, Bgirl. [01:22] <AG-SYSTEMS> Hey Bgirl. [01:22] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Then tell me why your leader has one. [01:22] <Bgirlabby> Who's this? [01:22] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Tell me why your moderators have them. [01:22] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Tell me why your administrators have them. [01:22] <Klintran> Because they have permission [01:22] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Permission from who? [01:22] <TwistedAlpha> Bots. [01:22] <TwistedAlpha> And if not bots, new accounts. [01:22] <Bgirlabby> ...I don't like this way this is going... [01:22] <Klintran> Drew, or whoever. [01:22] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> It doesn't matter, Klintran. You have no right to know the I.P. It's reasonable for him, but you are not even a moderator. [01:22] <Klintran> I have dupes, but don't use them on this wiki [01:23] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> But you do have them. [01:23] <Bgirlabby> If they aren't in use here, it doesn't really matter [01:23] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Is creating dupli cat e accounts allowed globally on all of the wiki? [01:23] <Klintran> Yup. Our admins can't control what I do on different wikis. [01:23] <Bgirlabby> Not that I have any idea what's going on [01:23] <Klintran> Just this wiki, Sarah [01:23] <Legofanyoda1547> Klintran was a moderator, for your information. He requested that his rights were removed. [01:23] <Bgirlabby> ^ [01:23] <Klintran> It's allowed globally [01:24] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> I know that. [01:24] <ClutchTheGreat> -chuckles- [01:24] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> I've been here for over a year, you know. [01:24] <Klintran> I've been here for 3. [01:24] <Legofanyoda1547> 11 months =/= a year [01:24] <AG-SYSTEMS> @SoundwaveFangirlSarah, are you related to ThePeglegedNinja? [01:24] <Klintran> (next month, at least) [01:24] <TwistedAlpha> gtg. [01:24] <Bgirlabby> Twisted o/ [01:24] <Klintran> Hey LBB! [01:24] <Klintran> o/ [01:24] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> No, AG-SYSTEMS. [01:24] <Bgirlabby> LBB O/ [01:24] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Funny Klint... [01:24] <ClutchTheGreat> LBB. o/ [01:24] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Hello, LegoBrickBuilder. [01:24] <Gslover1> Hello, LBB. [01:24] <Legofanyoda1547> Hey LBB [01:24] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> o/ [01:24] <Bgirlabby> Brick o/ [01:24] <Klintran> So fun now? :P [01:25] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> I expect no hellos cause I quit the wiki. [01:25] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> User blog:LondonDauntlessCorvair963/MCP Timeline History How do I remember 2011? [01:25] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> LBB, but you're on... :P [01:25] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> I don't feel myself to be a LMBW user anymore. [01:25] <Bgirlabby> Oh...? [01:25] <Klintran> I linked him, LDC [01:25] <Gslover1> Why, LBB. That sounds quite serious. I did not know you did feel that way. [01:25] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Just a user. [01:26] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> Klint, ah [01:26] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> No one did cause they were busy with being stuck up or fighting. [01:26] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> Once an LMBW member, always an LMBW member, friend. :) [01:26] <Bgirlabby> Yup [01:26] <AG-SYSTEMS> Why can't we say hello to users @LBB? Also, hi. :p [01:26] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> LMBW is dead to me. [01:26] <Bgirlabby> :/ [01:27] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> I didn't leave I "quit". [01:27] <Gslover1> Well then LBB, you'd better get done what you need to do. I am sorry for the displeasure. [01:27] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> people who leave come back. I simply "quit". [01:27] <Gslover1> Hello, Melt. [01:27] <Bgirlabby> Melty o/ [01:27] <MeltE2> Hello. [01:28] <Gslover1> Hello, NightFalcon. [01:28] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Look, I'm sad at how things are going when I left, yet it stays the same. [01:28] <Bgirlabby> Why do I still have this stupid Smosh avvie [01:28] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> I haven't seen a good change that I was expecting. [01:28] <Gslover1> I understand, LBB. [01:28] <Bgirlabby> Need a new one :p [01:28] <Bgirlabby> Per Gs [01:28] <MeltE2> What are you wanting this wiki to be, LBB? [01:28] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Gslover, saying is easy, but truly feeling and understand are another. [01:29] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> I wanted the wiki to be better. [01:29] <MeltE2> In what ways? [01:29] <Gslover1> Well then, explain yourself, LBB. I do wish to know about the matters. [01:29] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Yet the admins, I hope, would change a few things. Instead, left them the same. [01:29] <Klintran> LBB, with the current admin time is impossible [01:29] <Klintran> ^that [01:29] <Klintran> Team* [01:29] <MeltE2> You're being vague. [01:29] <MeltE2> What things? [01:29] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> The rules,the chat the issues the trouble. Could be solved but yet, ignored. [01:30] <Gslover1> We're a collection of users, we can change things in time. Perhaps you can at least point out the troubling things. [01:30] <Bgirlabby> Nobody's trying to ignore anything [01:30] <Bgirlabby> The admins are doing their best [01:30] <MeltE2> I see a lovely calm chat right here. [01:30] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Such as that which Klintran, I'mDivergent, and Cricket62 are creating? [01:30] <Gslover1> Perhaps not ignored, but put off. [01:30] <Bgirlabby> Do you have an objection to a certain rule? [01:30] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> the Message walls the trolls, the dupes, the fights,. All of that [01:30] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> LBB, trust me, chat is fine till the trouble makers show. [01:30] <Bgirlabby> ^ [01:30] <Bgirlabby> [01:30] <Legofanyoda1547> Message Walls suck [01:30] <Gslover1> LBB, that is very true. [01:30] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> Per LFY [01:30] <MeltE2> The Message Walls are perfectly fine. [01:30] <Klintran> Lol Sarah, I love how you point at me, yet we had stop arguing, and a log can prove that. [01:30] <Gslover1> And yes, chat can be very nice when it's not trolled. [01:31] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> I've seen MW with talks for admins. [01:31] <Bgirlabby> Hello, Butler...? [01:31] <Gslover1> Hello, His Bulter [01:31] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Had to stop Arguing? [01:31] <MeltE2> I love your username, whoever you are. [01:31] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> They simply don't do enough to fix it for the bes tof the community. [01:31] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aeN1XQW_460sa.gif That guy got away with selling pot! :O :P :P [01:31] <His Butler, online chatter> Greetings [01:31] <Klintran> "had stop arguing" aka WE stopped. [01:31] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Yes, I noticed. [01:31] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Despite what you may believe, I am not entirely blind. [01:31] <Klintran> You said otherwise earlier? [01:31] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> As for that animal blog by Skull. I'm sadden by many who joked about the death of a deer. [01:31] <Gslover1> Yes, I am too, LBB. [01:32] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> No. I'm going by what you have said to me. [01:32] <Gslover1> I was hoping it would be taken down quickly. [01:32] <Bgirlabby> Some people are just like that. I don't like it either [01:32] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> What's worse, a user said " Well the deer should of looked both ways". Well what if it was a child who didn't look both ways? Will you joke about that too? [01:32] <MeltE2> I'm saddened by the people who think animals dieing is sad. [01:32] <His Butler, online chatter> How are all you fine chaps today? [01:32] <Klintran> Animals have no souls and deer in particular are good eating. :P [01:32] <Klintran> Just thought I'd say that [01:32] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> ... [01:32] <MeltE2> If it was a child, there wouldn't have been a blog. [01:32] <Bgirlabby> Klint, not helping [01:32] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> There is a fine line between children and Animals, LegoBrickBuilder. While it was disappointing... you cannot compare them to human beings. [01:33] <Gslover1> Death is subject that all must face. Although cruelty, weather in humans or animals is not right. [01:33] <MeltE2> Hey Batty, Onely. [01:33] <His Butler, online chatter> Hello [01:33] <Loney 97> Hey everyone! o/ [01:33] <Bgirlabby> BG, Loney o/ [01:33] <Gslover1> Hello, Batgirl. Hello, Loney. [01:33] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Animals are animals but treat them with some respect. [01:33] <Klintran> Bgirl, I was just stating, by killing an animal, if there is a legit use (eating it), I have no problem whatsoever [01:33] <Bigbudcat> ^Per Melt. I haven't seen the blog, but, barring wanton killing solely for pleasure, there is absolutely nothing wrong with killing an animal. Nothing. [01:33] <Loney 97> LBB? Never expected to see you here again o/ [01:33] <Gslover1> Batgirl, the Avatar glitch is gone (for now). [01:33] <Bgirlabby> I'm fine with hunting for food, but joking about killing stuff is wrong [01:33] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> I never wanted to come back... [01:33] <Klintran> I wouldn't kill anything "for fun", but if I was actually going to eat it? Sure. [01:33] <Klintran> Lol I love how we change topics so easily. :P [01:33] <Loney 97> I hate that :p [01:34] <Bgirlabby> Grue o/ [01:34] <Gslover1> Hello, Grue. [01:34] <Loney 97> Hey Grue o/ [01:34] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> If things are still a joke here, why am I still here? [01:34] <MeltE2> I really don't know. [01:34] <Gslover1> Why did you come, LBB? [01:34] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Nothing has changed since I left. [01:34] <AG-SYSTEMS> Answer your own question. [01:34] <Klintran> &lt; [01:34] <MeltE2> Leave then. [01:34] <Klintran> I invited him to see what it's like now [01:34] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> I came because Someone told me too. [01:34] <AG-SYSTEMS> If we bother you, then leave. [01:34] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Klint. [01:34] <MeltE2> If you hate this place, why stay... [01:34] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> LegoBrickBuilder... [01:34] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> See. [01:34] <AG-SYSTEMS> Don't expect the world to revolve around you. [01:34] <Bgirlabby> If you don't want to be here, leave. You're welcome to stay, but obviously you don't want to [01:34] <Klintran> So he'd know the horrid state of this wiki, and how it still hadn't improved. [01:34] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> If Klint was the one who asked you to come here... [01:35] <Gslover1> Klint, he knows. And if that is all, then he should take his leave. I do not want him to be uncomfortable. [01:35] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Do you know what he was doing earlier? [01:35] <Sadistica> /normal [01:35] <Loney 97> So, I'm reading Socially Awkward peguin memes... And I realize that I do waaay too many of the captions myself... And it just got awkward reading them. :P [01:35] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> I used to like this place but if nothing has changed for the better. Let hope and trials see it through. [01:35] <Gslover1> Welcome back, Batty. [01:35] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Nevermind, I should not bother you with it. [01:35] <Bgirlabby> Lol Loney [01:35] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Perhaps you should leave. Unfortunately, I doubt things are going to ease up tonight. [01:35] <MeltE2> Klint doesn't seem to do much to help this community get better. [01:35] <Gslover1> Per Sarah. If anything happens for the better, it will take time. [01:35] <Sadistica> Thanks [01:36] <Legofanyoda1547> LBB left nearly 6 months ago however [01:36] <Klintran> Melt, maybe because I'm not trying [01:36] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Per Melt. [01:36] <Legofanyoda1547> Things still haven't improved. [01:36] <Klintran> (yds) [01:36] <Sadistica> Chat keeps lagging &gt;_&gt; [01:36] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> BTW tell me all of you. What have the admins done to help out LMBW right now? [01:36] <Legofanyoda1547> Nothing notable. [01:36] <Klintran> This wiki, in the current state, isn't improving unless the whole community gets a reshape. [01:36] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Nearly nothing, LegoBrickBuilder... I watch the wiki from the shadows, so to speak. [01:36] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> I check it every day, I just don't do anything. [01:36] <Gslover1> I cannot think of anything in particular, LBB. [01:36] <Legofanyoda1547> Btw Klint, PM [01:36] <Klintran> I've thrown my opinion across multiple times in hope of improving, yet it is ignored [01:36] <Klintran> (Check my recent blogs for more info) [01:36] <MeltE2> I personally find all these people wanting a change on this wiki quite amusing. [01:36] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> Your opinion? [01:36] <AG-SYSTEMS> They did make a blog telling users to stop making pointless blog comments, but I haven'r really seen them take action. [01:36] <Legofanyoda1547> nvm [01:37] <MeltE2> What really is wrong with this wiki? [01:37] <Gslover1> Klint, how can you try to give us your opinions when you troll this place just about daily? [01:37] <MeltE2> Nothing extremely notable. [01:37] <Klintran> "Troll" is an abused term here [01:37] <Gslover1> Hello, Rep. [01:37] <Sadistica> Hi Rep [01:37] <Gslover1> @Klint: Trouble maker. [01:37] <Klintran> You guys consider trolling whatever you dislike. [01:37] <AG-SYSTEMS> Hey Rep. o/ [01:37] <Bgirlabby> GTG [01:37] <Bgirlabby> Bye o/ [01:37] <MeltE2> Per Klint. [01:37] <Gslover1> Goodbye, Bgirl. [01:37] <Sadistica> What on earth happened (gasp) [01:37] <Sadistica> :p [01:37] <RepComCustoms.> Hello Sarah Palin and folk :P [01:37] <AG-SYSTEMS> @Klin, yeah...I can see that. [01:37] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Enough fighting. [01:37] <AG-SYSTEMS> We're talking. [01:38] <AG-SYSTEMS> Not fighting. [01:38] <Klintran> My opinion in matters is often considered "explicit" and somewhat offensive to some [01:38] <Bgirlabby> Too much, BG :P [01:38] <Bgirlabby> o/ [01:38] <Klintran> which often results in me being called a troll. [01:38] <Gslover1> LBB, we're one big angry family that doesn't really want to be with each other, sadly. [01:38] <AG-SYSTEMS> If we were fighting our messages would be in all caps. [01:38] <RepComCustoms.> HOLY BRICKS!!! IT'S LBB!! (SIE) [01:38] <AG-SYSTEMS> @Gs, then how come we are together on chat so often? (thinking) [01:38] <RepComCustoms.> I didnt see you there. :P [01:38] <Gslover1> Klint, just follow the rules, please. Take those definitions. [01:38] <MeltE2> Because we can [01:38] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> My guess why Klint is trolling the wiki is because he knows nothing will be done to fix LMBW. So he's probably pressuring all of you to Open your eyes and ask for change [01:38] <MeltE2> Oops. [01:39] <MeltE2> Didn't finish that. [01:39] <Gslover1> @AG: Because we're a family. So far we've stuck together. :P [01:39] <Legofanyoda1547> That's exactly why I trolled here a few months back LBB [01:39] <MeltE2> LBB.... What change do we need... [01:39] <MeltE2> You're expecting too much of the internet. [01:39] <Gslover1> You know what that's called, LBB, LFY, and Klint? Terrorism so to speak. It's a form of it, on the internet. [01:39] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> Let me address the problems on the wiki that I am aware of. [01:39] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> 1. Chat rules. One rule says you have to stop if any user says to, as long as it is a reasonable request. What's the use of CMs then? [01:39] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> 2. Chat itself. Once in a while a troll comes on, big deal. The CMs deal with it. No biggie. [01:39] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> 3. Admins not listening to users. Wikia was founded in a democratic environment, why can't the LMBW be founded on one too? Like voting for CMs or admins on blogs, helping fix problems, etc. [01:39] <Klintran> Per LBB [01:39] <Legofanyoda1547> lol 'terrorism' [01:40] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Do I expect too much out of the internet or do I expect too much from people behind their avatars? [01:40] <Gslover1> You use violence and rule breaking to make a point. [01:40] <Klintran> Even though I won't consider what I do "trolling" [01:40] <Legofanyoda1547> 'violence' [01:40] <AG-SYSTEMS> @LBB, do you want the rules to be more strict or more lax? I mean, I would actually make the rules a bit more lax actually. [01:40] <MeltE2> You expect to much out of what people act like on the internet. [01:40] <Loney 97> *too [01:40] <Gslover1> LBB, it is the latter. The internet is a thing, it cannot be "good" or "bad". It is what people make it into. [01:40] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> Trolling is actually a virtual terrorism. When people hear the word "terrorism", they think of the Middle East, 9/11, Osama bin Laden, etc. That is a common misconception. Terrorism is causing terror anywhere. [01:40] <MeltE2> It's not like this is "real life". [01:41] <Loney 97> Trolling cannot cause terror, LDC :p [01:41] <Gslover1> Yes, London. That is my point upon the sudject. [01:41] <Klintran> Gslover, you let personal interests get in the way of what's best for the Wiki [01:41] <AG-SYSTEMS> @LDC, what? :P [01:41] <Klintran> TL;DR: you care too much about becoming a mod [01:41] <MeltE2> Trolls cause TERROR!? Excuse me while I die laughing. [01:41] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Guys don't fight. [01:41] <Klintran> Sorry. [01:41] <Gslover1> What can I do for it, Klint? Show me the steps. [01:41] <AG-SYSTEMS> We're talking. [01:41] <AG-SYSTEMS> Not fighting. [01:41] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Can't you all focus on a goal as one instead of many? [01:42] <MeltE2> What goal. [01:42] <Loney 97> We have no set goal, LBB. [01:42] <Bigbudcat> You're a nutcase if you think that. You can ignore trolling. You can't ignore 15 rounds of 7.62x39 fired from a full-auto AK-47 coming at you in your house in Kabul. The comparison is distasteful at best and callously barbaric at worst. [01:42] <Legofanyoda1547> Actually edit, maybe? Nobody edits here anymore @Gs [01:42] <Sadistica> No offense but why debate about this? No one has stated there being problems other than inactive admins. [01:42] <Klintran> Gs, maybe something that would, in particular improve the wiki instead of constantly minimodding... [01:42] <Gslover1> LBB does have a point there. Although the goals are blurry at best. [01:42] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> @ Whoeversaid something about the rules [01:42] <Loney 97> LFY, many people, including myself, find editing to be waste of time... [01:42] <Gslover1> @Klint: Sadly, I am not active on the LEGO Message Boards, so that is out. I try to edit, but my knowledge is limited. [01:42] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> I wanted the rules to be clearer and easier to understand and follow. [01:42] <Klintran> Loney, remember, this is Wikia, an online Database [01:42] <Klintran> Hey Nxt [01:43] <Legofanyoda1547> If it's a 'waste of time', then the wiki is even more of a waste. [01:43] <Nxtstep101> o/ [01:43] <AG-SYSTEMS> @LBB, then make your own rules and ask the Admins to incorporate them. [01:43] <Legofanyoda1547> o/ [01:43] <Loney 97> This wiki is not exactly used as a wiki. [01:43] <His Butler, online chatter> My my you chaps do fight a lot! [01:43] <AG-SYSTEMS> Hey Nxt. o/ [01:43] <Gslover1> Hello, Nxt. [01:43] <MeltE2> Well, Klint, you know what happens when we try to move anywhere. [01:43] <Sadistica> Hey NXT [01:43] <Klintran> Everyone uses "well we're more of a community" as an excuse, and...why [01:43] <Legofanyoda1547> Then it shouldn't really bee a wiki [01:43] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> The wiki is a waste because the admins refuse to clean up the mess. [01:43] <Legofanyoda1547> *be [01:43] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> But a hand here and there helps. [01:43] <Gslover1> Klint, I've tried to cut back the mini-modding. [01:43] <MeltE2> It shouldn't be a wiki, but nobody wants to go anywhere else. [01:43] <Klintran> I know, Gs [01:43] <Legofanyoda1547> This wiki is a waste because nobody uses it properly [01:43] <Gslover1> Per Melt. [01:43] <Gslover1> And LFY. They are right. [01:44] <Loney 97> Everyone here tends to use it much more like a social network than a wiki. [01:44] <Gslover1> Although it does serve some of our purposes, and I am concern of what little we have might become if we leave this place and made another. [01:44] <Klintran> If you actually want what's best for the wiki in general, edit. Don't sit around here all day. [01:44] <MeltE2> Well, this is interesting and all, but I have to go for supper. [01:44] <Gslover1> Goodbye, Melt. [01:44] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Why move when you can help rebuild LMBW? [01:44] <Klintran> Chatting about sexual references, gay and lesbian people..seriously? [01:44] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> If the admins wont do a bricking thing. Do it yourself. [01:44] <Loney 97> Klint, that isn't why we're here. [01:44] <Klintran> When you could be doing something at least HALF-productive. [01:44] <MeltE2> Editing this worthless place would not help. [01:45] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Klint - Calm down please. [01:45] <Klintran> Loney, most common topic on chat, nonetheless [01:45] <Nxtstep101> Wait, when did that happen Klint? [01:45] <Cakedude222> Per Kint [01:45] <Klintran> Nxt, earlier today for an example [01:45] <Legofanyoda1547> klint YKW [01:45] <Klintran> and it goes on all during the week. [01:45] <Gslover1> LBB, to rebuild is to make anew. What foundation do we have to build upon? [01:45] <Loney 97> No Klint, I meant about editing. [01:45] <Nxtstep101> Any logs? [01:45] <Klintran> Oh. [01:45] <Klintran> I think you had it logged, actually [01:45] <Loney 97> Who here actually joined so that they could edit? [01:45] <Klintran> Me. [01:45] <MeltE2> Well, let's delete this wiki. [01:45] <MeltE2> And that will solve everything. [01:46] <Legofanyoda1547> I joined so I could edit actually [01:46] <MeltE2> Make the people move. [01:46] <Klintran> I had around 100 edits before even joining chat [01:46] <Sadistica> Just delete the chat. [01:46] <Gslover1> Everything, but us. [01:46] <Gslover1> Hello, Cake. [01:46] <Legofanyoda1547> Chat wasn't even /up/ when I joined. [01:46] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> I myself would build apon the thought of a better wiki. One that is better for users, But yours my differ as do everyone [01:46] <Legofanyoda1547> Chat was added a month after I joined [01:46] <Loney 97> That explains the position Klint and LFY are taking... [01:46] <MeltE2> Deleting the chat is pointless, because then this wiki would be dead. [01:46] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> Per Mel [01:46] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> *Melt [01:46] <AG-SYSTEMS> Move this wiki's articles to Brickimedia. How bout that? [01:46] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> You can't delete a problem. It will always be there [01:46] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> Mel? lolwut brick :P [01:46] <Gslover1> Not totally, Melt. There would be those who would edit. [01:46] <MeltE2> MOVE TO BRICKIMEDIA. LOL [01:46] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> Editing is done, it's all about the chat now. [01:46] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> You have to solve the problem. [01:47] <AG-SYSTEMS> No, move the articles to Brickimedia. [01:47] <Klintran> Deactivating chat would help weed out most of the bad users/trolls [01:47] <Legofanyoda1547> If the Wiki would be dead, then that shows how much of a horrible state the wiki is in. [01:47] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> I'd rather chat get deleted than move to Brickimedia, frankly. [01:47] <MeltE2> Anyway, I have to go. [01:47] <Klintran> Per. [01:47] <Klintran> @LFY [01:47] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> Per LFY [01:47] <MeltE2> I would move to BM. [01:47] <Sadistica> Per LBB running away won't solve anything. The problems will come back. [01:47] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> Chat is all people care about. [01:47] <Gslover1> How much more can one edit on new users and the deformed state of the LEGO Message Boards? [01:47] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Err, running away? [01:47] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> And Sad is right, we need to get the admins' attention. [01:48] <Sadistica> Brickimedia I mean [01:48] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> I tried to solve the issues but I got ignored by my own admin team [01:48] <Klintran> Well, TBH, we wouldn't really get anything done on /this/ wiki. Most admins debate about the subject for 6 months [01:48] <Klintran> then forget about it [01:48] <Legofanyoda1547> By the way, I talked with Legoguy on IRC the other day. He's disappointed that the wiki is used as a socializing site now [01:48] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Oh nevermind. I read that worng. [01:48] <Klintran> I can testify to that ^ [01:48] <Bigbudcat> I will now let you all be horrified by this emote. (gasp2) [01:48] <Bigbudcat> [01:48] <Bigbudcat> Sent from Clutch [01:48] <Klintran> @LFY [01:48] <AG-SYSTEMS> If you are all so angry about stuff, why not ask to be promoted to admin or write a blog. [01:49] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Look, each person has power to change the world. It depends if you got the will to do it. [01:49] <Gslover1> AG is right. Grab their attention and hold it tight. [01:49] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> Asking to admin would make you go down the list to get admin. [01:49] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> *to be admin [01:49] <Sadistica> Because nothing will change if it's made into a heated debate. [01:49] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> I don't want admin. A regular user can do as much change as admin. Maybe more. [01:49] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> But a blog might work. [01:49] <AG-SYSTEMS> Well ask the Wikia heads for all I care. [01:49] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> Wikia doesn't care, we're on our own. [01:49] <Legofanyoda1547> ^ [01:50] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> If all of you just do at least one thing to fix LMBW, then maybe, you can fix it without the admins. [01:50] <Klintran> Should probably be done, @AG [01:50] <Gslover1> Still, I have desired to edit much more, from the day I joined I desired to do so. I wish I could, but my knowledge is weak in that point. Not in the ability to edit, but in the knowledge of things I can edit. [01:50] <Klintran> LBB, sadly, the admins have the final decision in everything [01:50] <Klintran> we can't make any choices without approval from them. [01:50] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> They do not control our actions [01:50] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> They can delete our words [01:50] <Sadistica> I haven't edited much. Perhaps I should work more on that. [01:50] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> But they can't stop what we do. [01:50] <Gslover1> We have the voice, Klint. Something they don't have. [01:50] <AG-SYSTEMS> When the mods won't listen, revolt. [01:50] <AG-SYSTEMS> *admins [01:51] <Nehpets700> AND I THREW IT TO THE GROUND! I won't be apart of your system! [01:51] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> They will have to hand us separately or hang us together [01:51] <Gslover1> Per AG, revolt against the Admins. [01:51] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Which do you guys choose? [01:51] <Nehpets700> (My dad is not a phone. :| ) [01:51] <Legofanyoda1547> You even need to have un ban s approved by admins now. If a user can be trusted with CM rights, I think they can be trusted to unban someone [01:51] <AG-SYSTEMS> If we are hung then we know we tried our best. [01:51] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> And revolt for the better. But Still follow the rules. [01:51] <Gslover1> May we all be hung together. [01:51] <LondonDauntlessCorvair963> http://safeshare.tv/w/kdRBQRQWYi Wikia in a nutshell. [01:51] <Sadistica> LBB, yes there's been many times I wanted to speak out my thoughts but was afraid of being put down. [01:52] <Sadistica> But haters gonna hate [01:52] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> The admins my want to put us down. But we still stand up. [01:52] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> *may [01:52] <Gslover1> We should join our thoughts together and change the whole system here. [01:52] <Klintran> Lol @ how there's an admin here right now watching all this "revolt against admins" stuff. [01:52] <AG-SYSTEMS> @BG, voice you opinion. If someone thinks it's stupid, screw them. [01:52] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Stand up Stronger than ever. [01:52] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> ... [01:52] <Legofanyoda1547> Drew and Nxt are decent admins [01:52] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> I just have to state that you might fare better if there is not a revolution... [01:53] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Let the admins watch, they can't stop us now. [01:53] <Legofanyoda1547> LBB was a decent admin while he was one [01:53] <Sadistica> Thanks AG ^_^ I'll speak up more often. [01:53] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> .... ._. [01:53] <Legofanyoda1547> the other admins... eh [01:53] <Gslover1> Yes, not all admins are bad, LFY. [01:53] <SoundwaveFangirlSarah> I... don't even... [01:53] <AG-SYSTEMS> You're welcome, BG. [01:53] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> True Gslover. They just have changed. [01:53] <AG-SYSTEMS> The admins need a kick in da pants. [01:53] <Gslover1> We needed a revolution, but a strange command as users. [01:53] <LegoI3rickI3uilder> Strong?