Board Thread:Community Voting/@comment-24718406-20160307023910/@comment-5643582-20160308025317

Loney 97 wrote: TheShadowAssassin wrote: Loney 97 wrote: As an admin, I don't see a downside to letting as many good users as possible have rights to deal with trolls, rulebreakers ect, so demoting anyone for any reason other than that they aren't doing their job properly feels unnecessary and like a step back. Have you read Obi's blog? In it, Obi touched up on several of the problems that most Chat Moderators seem to be facing. To me, a decent solution to most of those problems would be to lessen the number of Chat Moderators. For example, one of the problems Obi listed was cooperation between moderators. He stated that,  " Too often, moderators forget that they are part of a team. In challenging situations on chat, it is important for moderators to work together. Mods should refrain from undermining one another and should back each other up if needed."

I feel like this could be fixed if we had a smaller group of moderators who actually understand what it is like to work as a team and to not undermine each other. Demoting someone doesn't have to mean they're doing a bad job exactly, but simply because that's what the solution calls for.

Another point Obi mentioned was the actual role of a moderator. I can guarantee you that a fair portion of the current moderators do not understand their role as a moderator given Obi's definition.

Notice that these are things that coming to an admin about simply won't fix (although I thank you for reminding me yet again that I can always come to you guys if I feel like someone isn't using their rights properly). You can't force somebody to understand their role, and you can't force a large group of people to work as a team. Alright. You make fair points and I won't argue against them - I personally feel that what would help the CM team most is simply education and more communication between them, but what you say makes sense as well. I'm still voting no though. Just a note on top of what Apple said.

A big problem we have with some CMs is them not caring about their rights or the responsibility that comes with it. It's not that they're immature or can't handle the rights. They just show commitment to moderating. If we can get a few of those CMs out of the picture, than the CMs that do have devotion to moderating can maybe create a site like the admin site but for CMs, and they all would be active. Which was our main issue for not being able to make a site like that. Just something to think on. (I'm pretty sure you were the one who originally suggested the site right? :P )