User:Marcel77799/Chat/Logs/16 December 2017

 [04:14]  It's cool but research can also be quite frustrating sometimes (derp) [04:15]  It sure can be, I getcha :P [04:16]  What parts of research get the most frustrating in particular for you? [04:19]  When your experiment does not work and you have basically no clue why [04:23]  Oh yeah that's always annoying [04:24]  So many sleepless nights lol [04:26]  I mean as a student I don't have to produce a certain amount of resuzlts for publications [04:26]  Wasted trying to figure out what went wrong or why it turned out like this when you knew you had a pretty good idea of how things were and how it was supposed to turn out [04:26]  That is true yes [04:27]  but yeah, molecular biology is weird [04:27]  Things do not always do what they should do xfD [04:29]  I've dabbled in something similar in high school and that does seem to be the case lol [04:31]  I like staying in the safe confines of programming, it's 99.99% predictable, when something goes wrong I usually have some idea of what might be causing it [04:32]  Yeah, that's what a friend of mine also told me [04:33]  Yep. One of the most baffling bugs Ive ever encountered was caused by...a typo :p [04:34] <Person of Info> In programming there aren't a lot of intervening variables to worry about. [04:34] <Marcel77799> I know [04:35] <Marcel77799> or some stupid brackets missing [04:35] <Person of Info> Unlike, say, nature perhaps [04:35] <Person of Info> Yep lol [04:36] <Marcel77799> We also have to do some programming in R [04:36] <Person of Info> Cool [04:36] <Person of Info> It's the language used for statistical stuff, yeah? [04:36] <Marcel77799> Yeah [04:36] <Person of Info> How is it? [04:37] <Marcel77799> It's ok I'd say [04:39] <Marcel77799> I mean it has no graphical interface [04:40] <Marcel77799> That sometimes sucks [04:40] <Person of Info> Ah, so it runs in a terminal [04:40] <Person of Info> Yeah it does suck when you're not used to that kind of environment [04:40] <Marcel77799> You get used to it [04:40] <Person of Info> Makes you sorta appreciate the conveniences of graphical user interfaces lol [04:40] <Person of Info> Yeah you do [04:41] <Marcel77799> Yep [04:41] <Person of Info> When I started out years ago I didnt like the terminal very much. Now I basically live in it lol [04:44] <Marcel77799> I bet xD [04:47] <Person of Info> I love it &lt;3 Even on Windows I can't live without it [04:48] <Person of Info> I have Visual Studio installed, complete graphical user interface and all. (VIsual Studio is Microsoft's compiler suite) You know what i do? [04:49] <Person of Info> I ignore all that crap and directly use the internal compiler via a terminal [04:49] <Marcel77799> So you basically can't live without it anymore? [04:50] <Person of Info> Well I /could/, but I'd hate to compile with Visual Studio's convoluted graphical interface where you dont know where most crap is [04:51] <Person of Info> With a terminal, I just type a few things and I'm done, no messing around with menus buried within menus buried within menus buried within a tiny button [04:52] <Person of Info> For some things, graphical interfaces are nice, like databases. But when it comes to compiling programs, terminals are where it's at [04:53] <Person of Info> Oh btw do you deal with databases for data and stuff? [04:57] <Marcel77799> Not yet but that will come up later [04:57] <Person of Info> Ah I see [04:57] <Marcel77799> I mean the whole data processing and structuringwill become more and more important for us [04:58] <Person of Info> Gotcha