Thread:Seaside98/@comment-4272842-20130713005148/@comment-5884303-20130713153032

Obi the LEGO Fan wrote: ToaMeiko wrote: Obi the LEGO Fan wrote: ToaMeiko wrote: Obi the LEGO Fan wrote: ToaMeiko wrote: Samed5 wrote: ToaMeiko wrote: MsD showed tremendous improvement at Brickipedia. He's been improving many articles, reverting spam and vandalism almost instantly, and already received rollback rights. Then again, we don't hold grudges over past events at Brickipedia, so that probably has something to do with it. This isn't Brickipedia. But that's the reason why he was unblocked. Seaside saw improvement, so he gave MsD another chance.

@Obi: When I said "grudge", I was saying how at Brickipedia, we don't care about a user's past events (in almost all cases, there are some exceptions), and are almost always open to giving another chance. Once we give a second chance, in almost all cases, we see a significant improvement and the user becomes a helpful and appreciated member of our community. For example CM4S, who started fresh as LEGO2013Helper/CM4Sci, and myself. We all make mistakes, and the only way to see improvement is by being allowed the opportunity and reason to improve. That's my philosophy. MsD certainly is being given an opportunity of some sort, however he may not have a reason to improve, in his mindset. I understand what you mean by grudge; however, I still disagree that a grudge was responsible for his block. MsD has had many second chances, that's the thing. So the fact we have given him yet another should be considered very ungrudging, not the opposite. There has to be a place to draw the line, however. We are having a hard time tolerating any more policy violation. Like I said, I comes down to the availability of the opportunity and reason to improve. You obviously know he has had the opportunity, but I'm sure you'd also agree he doesn't see a reason in his mindset. It's a philosophy of mine you might want to remember, it's quite accurate and helpful. ;) Well, there seems like a reason: not getting blocked again. Unless, of course, he doesn't enjoy participating in this community, in which case he ought to not do so. If you mean going out of our way to provide incentive for reform, then I suppose you are right in saying that would be helpful. But what incentive would you suggest? He showed interest in running for committee, right? Maybe if you make an agreement with him that he shows the kind of improvement he showed at Brickipedia, he could get a spot on the LMBW Committee at some point. That's not really a possibility. In order to get on the committee, he would have to follow the guidelines like everyone else, and get one of the top five ammount of votes. That's not possible, since nominations are closed already. Of course, he could always run for the committee next time, but whether or not he gets elected would be up to the community, not me. That's the point, though. If that's what he wants is a spot on the committee, he'd have to follow the rules. That's his reason to follow the rules here now, all he needs is the opportunity again.