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Obi the LEGO Fan wrote: No one is going to lose their rights, unless they abuse them and violate policy. It's not fair to simply "start fresh", especially when many of the current mods and admins are great. Others could do with some training, I agree, but taking away their rights is not the way to go.

A lot of people seem to complain that we have too many CMs. While this seems true in some instances, it rarely caused any actual problems. In fact, if there are several CMs it is less likely that someone would attempt to troll chat. Also, at certain times of day, there are actually very few CMs. In the mornings and evenings PST, I am often the only CM on.

It is true that our CM team could benefit from training. However, it must be considered that the admins only promote people to CM that they believe do know how to moderate.

Most problems on chat are caused by enforcing what users view as overly strict rules. This is not the fault of the ChatMods, if the rules are indeed strict. The admins wrote the policy, and CMs are supposed to enforce the rules. Blaming us and giving us grief over the rules, and then saying the CMs are bad makes no sense to me. If you want a change, don't ask the CMs to not do their job. Try to work reform in the rules.

(This message is not in response to one person, but is a general statement about starting over with the mod team.) I disagree with the part about trolls. Now, if I were a troll, which I'm not, I would probably troll more when there were more CMs on. Trolls are just like elementary school bullies, they try to get you to respond to them. If a bunch of mods are giving them warnings and kicks, they're going to keep trolling. That's the point of trolling, is it not? But if there's just one or two mods on telling him to stop trolling, that's not as fun for them and they might leave easier/faster.

About the last paragraph, we (others who have complained about the rules and I) have tried to reform the rules, without progress. I'm not blaming CMs for the things stated in the rules, but there are other things that aren't stated in the rules that some mods don't allow. Things like talking about changing the rules, and even singing. I was singing a song from West Side Story the other day, and mind you it wasn't a busy chat or anything, and one or two of the mods told me I couldn't sing one of the lines. Nothing about that is stated in the rules, and yet the CMs can pretty much make up rules if they don't like what someone said.