Board Thread:Community Voting/@comment-4257955-20150306000303/@comment-4257955-20150309212257

Goggles99 wrote: I'm going to vote an absolute and definite B)No: And here's why User_blog:Goggles99/Why_Admin_Talks_held_on_Wikia_are_a_bad_Idea You make some good points through this blog. However, what are your "better ways to implement" the ideals of transparency and community involvement aside from merely calling on all the admins to mingle with the users here freely? I do this all the time on chat, and some others too. Yet this proposal has some major proponents, like me and Obi and Meiko. So what do you recommend we do to achieve these ideas in place of moving the admin discussions here?

Also, you make it sound way too easy and carefree to be voted an admin by the community and join in the discussions. We only have so many admins compared to the tally of active users here, which someone recently said was around 167. If it were that easy we'd have far more, but obviously the process is more fickle than you set it out to be.

I've seen many people ask for having more admin discussions out in the open here, so the results of this vote are a bit shocking to me, if I'm being honest. :p If anything, it seems the biggest reason for opposing this proposal is the fear that the discussions will erupt into fights and melodrama. I lean on the more optimistic side, thinking that the discussions would help in bringing the admins and the users into a closer spectrum, even if opinions and/or beliefs still clash. And why can't they clash? They're opinions, so discourse concerning them is to be expected, but I can't see fights coming out of anymore than you and others can, as it's not at all a tangible thing to examine. Also, all the debating about this vote hasn't ever crossed a line into flame wars and the like.

But that's all I have in this cluttered, rushed response, as I'm really quite busy right now. :p Thanks for your insight, Gogs. I still stand by Obi's blog as being the most convincing argument, however, and thus align with that mindset.