LEGO Message Boards Wiki:Chat/Logs/3 December 2013

 [02:03]  o/ [02:03]  Bye DC. o/ [02:03]  Now I'm feeling like finding some more of those old DOS games. [02:03]  Commander Keen. (bf) [02:03]  :P [02:04]  They need to bring that back in HD. [02:04]  I usually don't play a lot of games nowadays... [02:04]  o/ [02:05]  Really? [02:05]  Yeah, I don't either, too little time with school. [02:05]  Who are you saying 'really' to, LCM&gt; [02:05]  Hey Nxt. [02:05]  Nxt. o/ [02:05]  Nxt [02:05]  Can you unban Meiko? [02:05] <Nxtstep101> o/ [02:05] <Indigo~> Don't. [02:05] <Klintran> He was banned because he had an IRL avatar for 5 seconds [02:05] <LCM7063> @VG To you. ;) [02:05] <LCM7063> [02:05] <LCM7063> o/ [02:05] <Indigo~> He broke a rule. [02:05] <Nxtstep101> What? [02:05] <Indigo~> Klint, [02:05] <Indigo~> He was doing it to mock Aok... [02:05] <The Evil Ogel> Huh? Meiko's banned? [02:05] <Virtual Grue> Wait, LCM, are you on LOCO? [02:05] <Klintran> That isn't a rule [02:06] <Indigo~> After Aok kicked him AND warned him, [02:06] <LCM7063> @Grue Not anymore. [02:06] <LCM7063> Did they update the game yet? [02:06] <Virtual Grue> Why not? [02:06] <Indigo~> He changed it before Aok could kick him. [02:06] <MeltE2> LOCO is so annoying. [02:06] <Virtual Grue> A lot... [02:06] <Nxtstep101> Klintrin is actually right, we don't have it in our rules.... [02:06] <Nxtstep101> Hmm... [02:06] <Klintran> That isn't a rule though [02:06] <Indigo~> Nxt: [02:06] <LCM7063> Did they add more areas? [02:06] <MeltE2> Does it have keyboard controls yet? [02:06] <Indigo~> Do not give away personal information on either public or private chat, even if both users agree on it. Personal information is considered to be any information that could be used to contact you, or personally identify or locate you. This includes real-life pictures of you, contact information, and your home address. You may not give any user a location that's more specific than your country or state. [02:06] <Klintran> DB said we were leaving it in the old policy [02:06] <Indigo~> This includes real-life pictures of you" [02:06] <LCM7063> They have some hotkeys for the powerups I think. @Melt [02:07] <Virtual Grue> No, it doesn't, melt. It never will. At least, not in the foreseeable future. [02:07] <Nxtstep101> Oh, I was thinking the main policy. [02:07] <MeltE2> I'm never playing it, then. [02:07] <LCM7063> :p [02:07] <Virtual Grue> AFK for a bit [02:07] <LCM7063> Okay. [02:07] <Nxtstep101> Let me think about it. [02:07] <Indigo~> Klint, I don't think it should count until they update or put it where EVERYONE can see it. You haven't given us a link to anything that says that. [02:07] <Aok> NXT, if you need info, I can fill you in. [02:07] <Klintran> I can and will report it to Wikia [02:07] <Indigo~> Good for you. [02:08] <Nxtstep101> A log would be helpful. [02:08] <Nxtstep101> *@Aok [02:08] <Klintran> Because you can't force and punish someone because of a IRL avatar [02:08] <The Evil Ogel> The Evil Ogel Why were you banned at the LEGO Message Boards Wiki? [02:08] <The Evil Ogel> 9:07 GeorgeBarnick I had to change my avatar to an IRL picture of me for a chat I was in, and I changed it back because LMBW mods were having a fit, and next thing I know, they ban me. [02:08] <The Evil Ogel> Don't bother with it, I'll take it up with Drew, as I usually do. I believe the LMBW mods also know the outcome of how those usually go, for example, Klintrin. [02:08] <Aok> Klin, let me repost what I told LFY. [02:08] <The Evil Ogel> Is that true? [02:08] <Loney 97> Oh cool, we're still talking about this? :p [02:08] <Aok> His interpretation of the events is rather... rough. [02:08] <Klintran> Aok [02:08] <Indigo~> "had to" [02:08] <Aok> Okay, let me explain what I've already explained two times. [02:08] <Aok> I am a moderator. My job is to enforce chat rules. [02:08] <Aok> LEGO Message Boards Wiki:Chat Rules#Chat Policy [02:08] <Aok> "The chat policy is a separate part of our general policy. The point of having a chat policy is so the moderators know what they have the authority to enforce." [02:08] <Aok> This gives me the power to enforce anything below that sentence, which is contained in the chat policy. [02:08] <Aok> "Do not give away personal information on either public or private chat, even if both users agree on it. Personal information is considered to be any information that could be used to contact you, or personally identify or locate you. THIS INCLUDES REAL-LIFE PICTURES OF YOU, contact information, and your home address. You may not give any user a location that's more specific than your country or state. " [02:08] <Aok> The important information is capitalized for effect. [02:08] <Aok> I have carried out my job to the fullest extent of my abilities. [02:08] <The Evil Ogel> Aok, how do you know his side of things? [02:09] <Aok> Oh yes, yes I do. [02:09] <Indigo~> Aok^^^ [02:09] <Aok> He was pushing the rules in order to troll/see how far he could get with me. [02:09] <Indigo~> @the first thing you said [02:09] <Aok> (LEGO Message Boards Wiki:Chat Rules [02:09] <The Evil Ogel> You sure about that? [02:09] <Indigo~> Ogel: [02:09] <Indigo~> He changed his avatar BEFORE Aok could kick him, and even said so himself [02:09] <Samed5> Meiko has been a troll here ever since he first came onto chat last year. He comes on here to annoy the mods. [02:09] <TwistedAlpha> Last year? [02:09] <Indigo~> Per Sam [02:09] <TwistedAlpha> User:ToaMeiko [02:10] <TwistedAlpha> 1,104 EDITS SINCE JOINING THIS WIKI [02:10] <TwistedAlpha> APRIL 3, 2013 [02:10] <Samed5> He chatted for a while before he made his first edit. [02:10] <The Evil Ogel> By what he and the other people I've heard from, he had to change the avatar for a brief moment, and he changed it back as soon as he could. [02:10] <Indigo~> Almost a year, Twisted =P [02:10] <Nxtstep101> I'd like to see a full log, please. [02:10] <LFY1547> "a while" [02:10] <Virtual Grue> Gonna go o/ [02:10] <LFY1547> You mean one month [02:10] <Aok> @Evil: In order to show that he could get away with it. [02:10] <TwistedAlpha> Four more months. [02:10] <TwistedAlpha> :P [02:10] <The Evil Ogel> Assume good faith? [02:10] <Aok> @NXT: I refreshed. Has anyone been on long enough to get the whole log? [02:10] <Samed5> Well, I'm sorry for not memorizing the exact date of when he joined. (ys) [02:11] <Nxtstep101> Does anyone else have the full log? [02:11] <Klintran> Also [02:11] <Aok> @Evil: In this case, faith isn't exactly something you could consider. I mean, how can you have faith for a user who, despite warnings and explanations, defies you anyway. [02:11] <Klintran> Rys wants to be unbanned [02:11] <Indigo~> I don't.. [02:11] <Aok> * ? [02:11] <Samed5> I only have the end. [02:11] <Klintran> Because it was a request [02:11] <Klintran> Special:Contributions/RysTennant [02:11] <Nxtstep101> Okay :P [02:11] <TwistedAlpha> Don't unban him [02:11] <TwistedAlpha> D: [02:11] <The Evil Ogel> I've never seen a wiki with such callous set of users tasked with moderation. [02:12] <Nxtstep101> Guys, we can't assume that he changed his avatar with the intent of trolling here. [02:12] <TwistedAlpha> Yes we can [02:12] <Aok> Ogel, I have never seen you say anything which wasn't curiously against whoever Meiko hated at the moment. [02:12] <Samed5> How are we being callous? [02:12] <Indigo~> GAH, does anyone have the log? [02:12] <Indigo~> Please. e_e [02:12] <Loney 97> What kind of situation would Meiko be in where he would "have" to change his avatar to a picture of himself? [02:12] <Aok> @NXT: We don't need to assume. It was obvious. [02:12] <Samed5> I have the end. [02:12] <The Evil Ogel> You're basically refusing to assume good faith. [02:12] <Aok> EXACTLY. [02:12] <LCM7063> Cody. o/ [02:12] <Aok> Loney hits it right on the head. [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> You don't know what he's done here. [02:13] <Indigo~> Per Twisted [02:13] <Aok> Pay attention to what Loney said. [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> Special:Contributions/ToaMeiko Check his ban and block logs [02:13] <Indigo~> &gt;.&gt; [02:13] <RysTennant> o/ [02:13] <Samed5> Hi [02:13] <Samed5> : I changed it [02:13] <Samed5> : before you kicked me [02:13] <Samed5> : haha [02:13] <Samed5> 5:52 Samed5:...(ys) [02:13] <Samed5> : * (ys) [02:13] <Samed5> 5:52 GeorgeBarnick:gotcha [02:13] <Samed5> : so [02:13] <Samed5> 5:53 DC superheroes fan:BRB, switching computers [02:13] <Samed5> ~ Goodbye, DC superheroes fan! Come again! ~ [02:13] <Samed5> 5:54 Indigo~:test [02:13] <Samed5> 5:54 GeorgeBarnick:Test passed [02:13] <Samed5> ~ Welcome, AriHere! ~ [02:13] <Samed5> ~ Welcome, Virtual Grue! ~ [02:13] <Samed5> ~ Welcome, DC superheroes fan! ~ [02:13] <Samed5> 5:54 Aok:So, at one point in time, on this chat, you put your IRL avvie. Afterwards, you changed your avvie. This does not change the fact that you had an IRL avvie on chat when I was on to take care of you. I have warned you, and kicked you, and I believe the next step is to ban you [02:13] <Samed5> [02:13] <Aok> There is no good faith to assume because there isn't a reason that he would change his avvie to an IRL picture to himself EXCEPT to troll. [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 02:45, July 3, 2013 Obi the LEGO Fan (wall | contribs) unblocked ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) (Chat offenses = chat bans +community agrees) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 14:52, July 2, 2013 Obi the LEGO Fan (wall | contribs) changed block settings for ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) with an expiry time of 6 months (account creation disabled) (Intimidating behaviour/harassment: Discussion needed on this) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 14:27, July 2, 2013 Malc. (wall | contribs) blocked ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) with an expiry time of Eternity (account creation disabled) (Intimidating behaviour/harassment: Abusing multiple accounts, and swearing) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 07:32, April 1, 2013 Drew1200 (wall | contribs) unblocked ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) (Early unblock.) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 07:46, March 10, 2013 Drew1200 (wall | contribs) blocked ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) with an expiry time of 1 month (account creation disabled) (Spamming, dupes, trolling) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 07:13, March 10, 2013 Drew1200 (wall | contribs) unblocked ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) (Temporary) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 07:07, March 10, 2013 Drew1200 (wall | contribs) changed block settings for ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) with an expiry time of 3 months (account creation disabled) (Swearing, possibly impersonating, or making dupes.) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 11:58, February 28, 2013 Drew1200 (wall | contribs) blocked ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) with an expiry time of Eternity (account creation disabled) (Swearing, possibly impersonating, or making dupes.) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 04:14, August 30, 2013 Alemas2005 (wall | contribs) banned ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) from chat with an expiry time of 2 hours, ends 06:14, August 30, 2013 (He posted a flickr link of "that" Miley Cyrus picture in LEGO. The description and comments had swears in'em. Banned for 2 hours as he left before I could kick.) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 09:43, July 23, 2013 Drew1200 (wall | contribs) changed ban settings for ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) with an expiry time of 1 week, ends 09:43, July 30, 2013 (No reason given) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 09:42, July 23, 2013 Drew1200 (wall | contribs) changed ban settings for ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) with an expiry time of 2 weeks, ends 09:42, August 6, 2013 (No reason given) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 04:40, July 13, 2013 Seaside98 (wall | contribs) banned ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) from chat with an expiry time of 1 month, ends 04:40, August 12, 2013 (Really?) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 04:19, July 13, 2013 Ireithien (wall | contribs) unbanned ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) from chat (According to him Seaside said he could be unbanned, so I'm unbanning him for now. Don't keel me D:) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 02:46, July 3, 2013 Obi the LEGO Fan (wall | contribs) banned ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) from chat with an expiry time of 3 months, ends 02:46, October 1, 2013 (Misbehaving in chat) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 02:28, July 3, 2013 Obi the LEGO Fan (wall | contribs) unbanned ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) from chat (No reason given) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 13:56, July 2, 2013 Samed5 (wall | contribs) banned ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) from chat with an expiry time of 1 week, ends 13:56, July 9, 2013 (Misbehaving in chat) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 02:46, April 21, 2013 Man.city1 (wall | contribs) banned ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) from chat with an expiry time of 1 week, ends 02:46, April 28, 2013 (Multiple reasons according to users on chat) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 02:31, April 21, 2013 Klintrin (wall | contribs) unbanned ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) from chat (No reason given) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 02:27, April 21, 2013 Klintrin (wall | contribs) banned ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) from chat with an expiry time of 3 days, ends 02:27, April 24, 2013 (Same as Keps) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 09:53, April 16, 2013 Aok (wall | contribs) banned ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) from chat with an expiry time of 3 days, ends 09:53, April 19, 2013 (Swearing Off Wiki, User had problem) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 09:53, April 16, 2013 Aok (wall | contribs) unbanned ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) from chat (Swearing Off Wiki) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 09:47, April 16, 2013 Aok (wall | contribs) banned ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) from chat with an expiry time of 2 hours, ends 11:47, April 16, 2013 (Maybe swearing) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 10:11, April 4, 2013 Obi the LEGO Fan (wall | contribs) banned ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) from chat with an expiry time of 1 week, ends 09:11, April 11, 2013 (Spamming. Bullying, disrupting chat, inappr. Comments.) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 07:43, April 4, 2013 Drew1200 (wall | contribs) unbanned ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) from chat (No reason given) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 14:21, April 3, 2013 Riolu777 (wall | contribs) banned ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) from chat with an expiry time of 1 day, ends 14:21, April 4, 2013 (Misbehaving in chat) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 11:37, February 28, 2013 Agent Swipe (wall | contribs) changed ban settings for ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) with an expiry time of 1 day, ends 11:37, March 1, 2013 (No reason given) [02:13] <TwistedAlpha> 11:36, February 28, 2013 Klintrin (wall | contribs) banned ToaMeiko (wall | contribs) from chat with an expiry time of 1 day, ends 11:36, March 1, 2013 (Misbehaving in chat) [02:14] <Aok> Do you see that list of problems? [02:14] <Loney 97> BM, chat fill much? :p [02:14] <ClutchTheGreat> BURN [02:14] <RysTennant> Why are we flooding Meiko's ban log? [02:14] <RysTennant> :P [02:14] <TwistedAlpha> All his chatbans/blocks [02:14] <Samed5> ^I think that list speaks for itself [02:14] <Indigo~> "I changed it : before you kicked me : haha " [02:14] <LCM7063> :p [02:14] <Aok> There is no way the avvie was changed with non-troll intent. [02:14] <ClutchTheGreat> "Aok [02:14] <ClutchTheGreat> So, at one point in time, on this chat, you put your IRL avvie. Afterwards, you changed your avvie. This does not change the fact that you had an IRL avvie on chat when I was on to take care of you. I have warned you, and kicked you, and I believe the next step is to ban you. [02:14] <ClutchTheGreat> GeorgeBarnick has been banned by Aok ". [02:14] <Aok> I carried out my ability as best as I am able, fully justified by the laws AT THIS POINT. [02:14] <Indigo~> Does that look lie something he HAD to do with NO INTENTIONS of trolling? [02:14] <ClutchTheGreat> I have a sort of log. [02:14] <Klintran> Just let Nxt deal with it and shut up [02:14] <Klintran> please [02:14] <ClutchTheGreat> I don't know how to log chat. [02:14] <RysTennant> Klint, don't be rude. (ys) [02:15] <Klintran> How is that being rude? [02:15] <Indigo~> He wanted a log, TYVM [02:15] <Indigo~> durp [02:15] <Klintran> He's getting one [02:15] <ClutchTheGreat> deeeerp [02:15] <Aok> And I'd give him a log, if someone hasn [02:15] <RysTennant> "Shut up" I've been kicked for saying that before. [02:15] <Aok> You have one? [02:15] <RysTennant> (ys) [02:15] <The Evil Ogel> I understand what you were doing Aok; you were following what you know, but apparently you didn't need to be so overbearing and it obviously wasn't ban-worthy. [02:15] <ClutchTheGreat> A sort of one. [02:15] <Klintran> Then the moderator that kicked you was wrong [02:15] <Klintran> @Rys [02:15] <Loney 97> I think this conversation is over, it looks that way. Let's just clam up and move on. [02:15] <ClutchTheGreat> (ban) [02:15] <Loney 97> Ogel, it is a rule here, therefore it is banworthy. [02:15] <RysTennant> Two weeks may be a little long, but what he did was still ban worthy. [02:15] <Aok> @Evil: Did you see my explanation? [02:15] <Samed5> Per Rys. [02:16] <Indigo~> Per Rys [02:16] <Aok> Per Rys [02:16] <RysTennant> explANAtion. xD [02:16] <RysTennant> :P [02:16] <TwistedAlpha> Shut up Rys. [02:16] <Aok> *sigh* [02:16] <TwistedAlpha> Nobody cares. [02:16] <ClutchTheGreat> (fw) [02:16] <Indigo~> Twisted, don't be rude [02:16] <Indigo~> &gt;w&gt; [02:16] <ClutchTheGreat> &gt;m&gt; [02:16] <TwistedAlpha> (fp) [02:16] <RysTennant> BM, I'll obsess over Ana all I want. :P [02:16] <TwistedAlpha> Do it in PM with her or whatever. [02:16] <TwistedAlpha> Don't tell us about it. [02:17] <RysTennant> You have no power here. [02:17] <RysTennant> :P [02:17] <Loney 97> BM, please just try to ignore him; it's not worth getting worked up about. [02:17] <RysTennant> 6:15 Samed5 Per Rys. [02:17] <RysTennant> 6:16 Indigo~ Per Rys [02:17] <RysTennant> 6:16 Aok Per Rys [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> Nor do you. [02:17] <Indigo~> I, personally, don't mind him doing that. :P [02:17] <RysTennant> IS IT A MIRACLE :O [02:17] <RysTennant> :P [02:17] <Klintran> No! [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> 1:15 [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> RysTennant [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> Two weeks may be a little long, but what he did was still ban worthy. [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> 1:15 [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> Aok [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> @Evil: Did you see my explanation? [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> 1:15 [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> Samed5 [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> Per Rys. [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> 1:16 [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> Indigo~ [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> Per Rys [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> 1:16 [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> Aok [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> Per Rys [02:17] <Aok> afk, until I am needed again [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> Aok ping [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> Please ban Rys [02:17] <Indigo~> I g2g [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> :) [02:17] <TwistedAlpha> :P [02:17] <RysTennant> Why, BM? :P [02:17] <Samed5> Bye, Indi. /o [02:17] <RysTennant> o/ [02:17] <Indigo~> o/ [02:18] <ClutchTheGreat> WHO ELSE FEELS LIKE A MUTANT ZOMBIE [02:18] <Indigo~> me [02:18] <Loney 97> I don't :p [02:18] <RysTennant> Not me. :P [02:18] <Indigo~> Cya [02:18] <Indigo~> o/ [02:18] <GeorgeBarnick> Goodness [02:18] <TwistedAlpha> WB [02:18] <ClutchTheGreat> #askmewhatthatmeansrys [02:18] <Loney 97> Oh brother, right when I thought we were done with this. [02:19] <GeorgeBarnick> Thanks for being positive, Loney. [02:19] <Samed5> So, Nxt decided to unban you? [02:19] <RysTennant> Why is Meiko unbanned? [02:19] <RysTennant> (ys) [02:19] <Aok> I'm SORRY? [02:19] <Nxtstep101> Please direct all complaints at me in a PM, NOT in main chat. [02:19] <Samed5> *isn't suprised*