Thread:A Walruse/@comment-26007606-20150315175052/@comment-4257955-20150315214528

Mishkaiel wrote: Riolu777 wrote: Would just like to say that I'm quite disappointed in the sorry state of affairs that you guys (Mish and Kydle and Romain and etc...) are engaging in with this. I used to think you guys were decent people, but seeing this huge fight, replete with personal jabs and affronts based on your warped perspectives toward this wiki and it's leadership...it's really quite telling of you guys and your attitudes, behaviors, and what have you.

I would love for you guys to quit with the squabbling and to take these bans with some dignity, please, as you all have earned them with this behavior. And then I would love even more for you guys to integrate into the wiki as respectable, affable chat and community denizens. Obviously there has been an utter failure to do so thus far. That is all I have to add, as I wasn't on for these events and have seen the admins and mods involved take necessary action, so I will not befuddle their affairs nor stomp in with some loopy outside narrative. Thing is, all of this has been going on for quite some time, and I and the others quite frankly didn't think it would lead to this. I am not sure how it got to this, but however it did, I am trying to make up, so would you people at least try too?

"warped perspective," not quite sure. I appreciate the action they're taking against certain things, but to go all out like this? Mass banning? What we did was the result of a quiet Sunday afternoon in which we were all bored and didn't have anything else to do. We were trying to not be distructive when we were "vandalizing" pages, it was something which was easily fixed, and therefore nothing major.

Also, " integrate into the wiki as respectable, affable chat and community denizens." What in the world does that mean? Half of the time, the subject matter that you all are discussing is something I have no desire to participate in, as to affable, look me up IRL, you'll find I'm completely affable. If by respectable you mean serious all the time, no joking, talking about weird stuff or all that, then I guess I'm not respectable. Idk anymore, I keep trying to patch things up between myself and the rest of the community, but it's not working.

=l What has been going on for a long time? You guys struggling to be able to spam and cause shenanigans in chat despise mods telling you guys that you can't? If that's what you mean, then yes, that has been going on for quite a while now.

This paragraph is hilariously funny. What you're doing right here is justifying all of your behavior which went against the policy on the chat you were on by saying "we were all bored" and you guys didn't have "anything else to do" and that vandalizing people's pages is perfectly acceptable because it was "easily fixed and therefore nothing major." I'm sorry, but breaking rules and continuing to push people's buttons here for the past few months by either finding far-fetched vindications, self-victimizing, or making farcical claims such as "you guys don't have humor," "you guys can't have fun," "you guys value inappropriateness over humor" whenever you're caught red-handed for breaking policy is not "nothing major."

Okay, so if the things being discussed are stuff you have no desire to participate in, you can just leave that chat, and pursue something else. And no, I goof around sometimes too, but there's a difference between mere jokes and engaging in emote spam and all of that disreputable conduct. Mish, having this sort of argument and attacking of users in this thread and in many other instances when your behavior led to a (deserved) undesirable result for yourself is not patching things up. I hope you can see what I'm saying.

Addendum: Alemas locked this thread as I was almost done typing this out. I'm not sure yet if I'll relock it or not after I post this response. It's only fair to see if you some other thing to add on to this rigmarole.