User:Alemas2005/Talk

Please do an action about the following
Assort them in anyway you choose

Lol

Likes
Please update the likes counts when you edit articles by using the restAPI.

community.lego.com/restapi/vc/users/login/ username /kudos/received/count

Regarding the Pizza Emote
Stop using it in all of your posts on Old Timers. Or Else.

What I wanted on chat
Nevermind that, I just wanted you to add a 3rd song to party mode.

Dinosaur Office RAWR!

Poems for Lemmy
Alemas, my lemmy

You are the

star of existence

I wish that you would eat

your fried chickens with me

But Alas, your hot dog

buns won't allow it. I

love you anyways.

I love your demon pizzas and

your Turkish Chumms

And stuff

I love you,

Star of My Existence

- Packachoom, my T or D poem

Lemmings running down the street

so good for you and me to eat.

A cozy meal under the stars

Hearts warm like the engines of cars

Dancing to a merry tune

with footballs as big as the moon

You will never forget this night

Dancing with chocolate lemmings under the moonlight.

-Toney, my beautiful poem

There once was a lemming named Ale,

Who would edit wikis without fail.

He brought order and peace,

Wherever he pleased,

But chaos would always prevail.

- A limerick by ToneTyphoon 22:33, January 10, 2015 (UTC)

Yo.
Kill while you're at it. —May the Force be with you, and may Darkness follow you. Oh. I'm the Doctor, by the way.

Dear Alemas
Hey Ally, we've been friends for a while, but I wanted you to know....

Ooh whoa, ooh whoa, ooh whoa You know you love me, you know you care Just shout whenever and I'll be there You are my love, you are my heart And we will never, ever, ever be apart Are we an item? Girl quit playin' We're just friends, what are you sayin' Said there's another, look right in my eyes My first love, broke my heart for the first time And I was like baby, baby, baby oh Like baby, baby, baby no Like baby, baby, baby oh I thought you'd always be mine (Mine) Baby, baby, baby oh Like baby, baby, baby no Like baby, baby, baby ooh I thought you'd always be mine Oh for you, I would have done whatever And I just can't believe we ain't together And I wanna play it cool But I'm losin' you I'll buy you anything I'll buy you any ring And I'm in pieces, baby fix me And just shake me, til you wake me from this bad dream I'm goin' down, down, down, down And I can't believe my first love won't be around And I'm like baby, baby, baby oh Like baby, baby, baby no Like baby, baby, baby oh I thought you'd always be mine (Mine) Baby, baby, baby oh Like baby, baby, baby no Like baby, baby, baby ooh I thought you'd always be mine Luda, when I was thirteen, I had my first love There was nobody that compared to my baby And nobody came between us no one could ever come above She had me goin' crazy Oh I was starstruck She woke me up daily Don't need no Starbucks She made my heart pound And skip a beat when I see her in the street and At school on the playground But I really wanna see her on the weekend She know she got me dazin' 'Cause she was so amazin' And now my heart is breakin' But I just keep on sayin' Baby, baby, baby oh Like baby, baby, baby no Like baby, baby, baby oh I thought you'd always be mine (Mine) Baby, baby, baby oh Like baby, baby, baby no Like baby, baby, baby ooh I thought you'd always be mine Now I'm all gone Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah (Now I'm all gone) Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah (Now I'm all gone) Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah (Now I'm all gone) Gone, gone, gone I'm gone gone

-Klint Bieber

Massage from Edward Nigma
Je t'aime beaucoup, est-ce que tu m'aimes aussi Personne ne peut venir entre nous. LCF (talk! )  06:25, February 20, 2015 (UTC)

trainmas2k5
ur welcome u skrub. wear this avvie with pride.

Renaming redirects
Hello Alemas, I have a question. Why did you rename and remove a lot of redirects? (Like LMBW:P) The reason they had LMBW: instead of LEGO Message Boards Wiki: was to shorten the name and make it easier to remember, so it seems illogical to rename and remove them. Not to mention, it left behind many redlinks in many pages, including policies. (For example, LMBW:P was listed as a shortcut to the policy page)
 * See Thread:197419. --Bourgeoisie (talk) 23:32, February 26, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you George.

Unclear Page
Hello Alemas, I found a page that is very unclear. I'd fix it myself, but I am not knowledgeable enough about the subject. [] "He used to be friends with Gresh, but after he quit the Crime Lords after a roleplay fight, he was mad at him." The wording is very unclear. I don't even know if it's a big deal or not...

Avalair
Recently, Avalair has been constantly breaking the rules, including but not limited to, linking inappropriate images and making countless innuendos. He's also kicked me many times without warning, and just today he kicked me for no legitimate reason - I simply said 'wat' in white text. Without warning, he proceeded to kick me. I still don't know why I was kicked.  [09:48]  wat [09:48]  wow, really? I need to change the text on this to white xD [09:48]  cmon dama [09:48]  lol xD [09:48]  dama :p [09:48]  nice [09:48]  ed used a blank space ban him [09:49]  It took so long to type that (zap) [09:49]  dont ban me :( [09:49]  come on ava [09:49]  YOU WILL SUFFER MY WRATH [09:49]  Woah. (wo) [09:49]  xD [09:49]  (LINK) [09:49] <Benboy755> >mature chat mod [09:49] <Edward Nigma> ava im done with you He then proceeded to ignore me when I asked why I was kicked, and then finally replied - by denying that he kicked me. <pre class="ChatLog"> [09:57] <Edward Nigma> can somebody please tell me why I got kicked [09:57] <Alemas2005> (FW) [09:57] <Romaniandude12> Kyd o/ [09:57] <~Batgirl78~> Stop harassing Ava [09:57] <Edward Nigma> he kicked me for no reason [09:57] <~Batgirl78~> Idk Ed [09:57] <~Batgirl78~> Ask him :p [09:57] <Avalair> Who kicked what [09:57] <Edward Nigma> he's been power abusing for the last ten minutes [09:58] <Avalair> Someone was kicked again?? [09:58] <Edward Nigma> yes [09:58] <Luke McSwagger99> if you guys are that immature, then kindly take your trolling white text into PM with your other immature friends =) [09:58] <Alemas2005> (FW) [09:58] <~Batgirl78~> You kicked Ed Ava [09:58] <Avalair> Stop talking so I can scroll up! If you read the full log (User:Alemas2005/Chat/Logs/28 February 2015), you can see that he was also stalling. I did nothing to disrupt the chat, nor did I deserve a kick. He's been trolling and abusing power, and somewhere in that log he also kicks Mishkaiel for no reason.

I can also check for other logs, and see other policy violations. So can somebody tell me why Avalair can break every rule he wants to, while at the same time "punishing" others for doing the same? LCF (<font color="#6600FF">talk! )  22:25, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

Banned from chat after the fact
Um, why do I wake up this morning to find myself banned from chat? If I wasn't banned when I may have been causing any abuse in chat, banning after the fact is unnecessary as it's not preventing any abuse. The abuse I may have been causing was over, so banning after the fact is just unnecessary punishment. Do we really have to go over this again (specifically take to note this and this reply)? I'll take a warning; sure I may have been saying things that were suggestive. But after the fact, a warning is all you really need to give. Not a 1 week ban. It's already over and won't happen again. Please lift the ban if you understand what I'm saying. --Bourgeoisie (talk) 18:55, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Would you not imprison a lawbreaker simply because the police couldn't catch him during the crime?

Slicer_Vorzakh
 * That metaphor implies that blocks/bans are punitive actions, which they shouldn't be. Ajraddatz (Talk) 19:02, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * Per Ajr. This is not a crime, and the point of banning is not to punish... The purpose is to prevent abuse, only if banning is the most efficient way to prevent that abuse. Seeing as I had already left and gone to sleep, I fail to see how banning after the fact prevents any abuse, versus just a warning. "Hey, don't say the kinds of things you were saying last night" does the job. --Bourgeoisie (talk) 19:08, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

You may want to read this. And, what Slicer said, basically. Alemas2005: Mostly Harmless(Talk to me) 19:04, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * What? That's not even a policy first of all. And secondly, a zero-tolerance system is just... bad. Use common sense rather than blindly following policies. Ask yourself this: If I weren't banned right now, would any abuse be happening right now? Certainly not, especially if you appropriately used a moderator warning instead of jumping to banning after the fact. So banning me was not necessary to prevent abuse, therefore I'd like to see my ban lifted. --Bourgeoisie (talk) 19:08, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * If you don't behave when CMs aren't on, you get kicked. If you don't behave when CMs aren't on, a ban to make up for the kick will be applied. Now, I'll go for a compromise, and shorten your ban to 3 days. One week for a "kick" is, admittedly, a bit too much. And Meiko, sure, my methods aren't mentioned in the policy... but sometimes, one has to employ a vigilante approach to keep people in check. I've done this before, y'know. Alemas2005: Mostly Harmless(Talk to me) 19:20, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * WAIT WHAT??? That makes no sense. A kick lets a user come back on as soon as they're ready. It's a warning that also takes them out of chat for a few seconds (or as long as the user needs to collect their thoughts and cool off). So basically you could have left me a warning on my message wall, I would have seen it this morning, and I'd have been able to rejoin chat when I was ready to be appropriate. A one week ban does not equate to that, I'm sorry. 3 days is closer, but it's still more than a kick. I've taken what you've said to mind now. I understand the warning, and I see how you perceive my actions as inappropriate. But seeing as you would have merely kicked me if you were on, is that enough to say that this ban that I've been aware of for an hour can be lifted? If I had been kicked last night I would have stopped. Now that I'm basically "kicked" off chat right now, I think it's safe to say I won't go back to saying the things I was saying last night... --Bourgeoisie (talk) 19:23, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Aj I saw what you and Meiko were saying last night, I expected more from a VSTF :/
 * So you admit to butchering the concept of appropriate actions on a wiki. Recognizing it is the first step? Ajraddatz (Talk) 19:06, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * Also me being VSTF has nothing to do with anything. Nor was anything that I said last night inappropriate. Your ridiculous crusade against any human interaction in chat is quite underwhelming from someone supposedly trusted with sysop + crat rights here. Ajraddatz (Talk) 19:08, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * How, may I ask, am I butchering the concept of that? Also, that's not gonna work Meiko. For example, you posted a convo you and Am had where you'd called Rappy... Something else
 * I also like the fact that while someone is leaving because how inappropriatechat is your arguing about this ban.
 * -Slicer_Vorzakh
 * Oh did I? yeah, but nobody seemed to have a problem with it, and I didn't see that word as something disallowed in chat. I wasn't warned for it, so I shouldn't have to be banned after the fact for something I was never made aware was an issue... --Bourgeoisie (talk) 19:17, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh did I? yeah, but nobody seemed to have a problem with it, and I didn't see that word as something disallowed in chat. I wasn't warned for it, so I shouldn't have to be banned after the fact for something I was never made aware was an issue... --Bourgeoisie (talk) 19:17, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

The policy clearly states "No explicit, suggestive, or graphically violent content is permitted." You and Ajr both made very suggestive comments last night, as well as referring to porn once again which I had already warned you not to do. You've been warned for this type of behaviour many times in the past before, so you ought to know better by now. I really don't care if you don't think what you did was wrong, it was wrong according to the policy so the ban is completely just.
 * Madkat, if you thought the remarks were perverted, and since you were in chat the whole time, why did you not step in and say anything then? Proper moderation would be having warned me before it became a problem. This is a repeat of this all over again. I don't think anything I said was "perverted", let alone "really perverted" like you called it in chat. If I'm wrong, I should have been made aware of that as it took place, not be facing a ban for it and only learning it was inappropriate after the fact. Also I'll put it out there that other users mentioned "porn" too and I didn't see them warned or banned after the fact... --Bourgeoisie (talk) 19:17, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * I was asleep and left chat up to log, which I read this morning. And here's where you should be using common sense: You've been here long enough to know what's considered unacceptable on chat. And the other users were referring to porn in this context:


 * [08:00] <Damastermind> ...weren't you warned for saying "pron" earlier


 * Which in that case is not bad.

"[08:01] <Damastermind> Sometimes things like r34 and pron are warned for

[08:01] <Damastermind> Other times you can flat out say "porn" with no issue"

Not trying to single out Dama or anything. Just putting it on the table. --Bourgeoisie (talk) 19:28, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

And once again it's about the context. With that said I still would have warned him not to mention it at that point, but it was a much different case with what you were saying.

So.. what exactly did I say last night that was suggestive and ban-worthy without any warnings? Ajraddatz (Talk) 19:24, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Here's some quotes from the log(Warning to other people: innuendo ahead, will remove when he sees this):

[06:50] <Ajraddatz> meikoishotAF6969

[06:56] <Ajraddatz> (bb) (bb) (bb) (in response to what meiko said about your PMs)

[06:59] <Ajraddatz> rule 34 and such

[06:59] <Ajraddatz> (bb) (bb) (bb) (bb)

[08:00] <Ajraddatz> now that's an O

[08:00] <Ajraddatz> ...emoticon


 * Using (bb) makes his messages inappropriate? --Bourgeoisie (talk) 19:43, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * Read my comment below.
 * The first was a quote from something I told meiko earlier and he had repeated. The second is an emoticon response to something someone else said, not sure how that could be suggestive. Saying rule 34 isn't a crime. And it was an O emoticon, like :O. Still not sure what the rationale for a ban is. Ajraddatz (Talk) 19:43, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
 * That doesn't make it okay to repeat once again. The emote implies it is suggestive, which is why I have no idea why (SS) was removed but that was kept. No it's not a crime, but we've made it clear that referring to such things is not allowed. And the O comment preeeetty clearly was intended to imply something else.
 * Ok, maybe fair point for the first one. The others are ridiculous. Using an emoticon in response to something that someone else said isn't me being suggestive. Simply saying something isn't wrong, and I honestly had no idea that you couldn't say "rule 34" here - someone explained it after and I haven't said it since. And as for the O, that wasn't either. I had been joking with Bourg about something that would be suggestive in skype, but that was merely an acknowledgement of another "O" emoticon.
 * The fact here is that for all but one of these "offences" you are assuming that I am being suggestive. I am not. Why else would I laugh at Bourg when he intentionally does stuff like that and say that he will be banned? This is a complete abuse of power, but I don't really care. I could just unban myself but I won't.
 * So, to tally it up, I've been banned for one comment without any warnings / kicks / etc. Good job! Pretty classic LMBW right here. Ajraddatz (Talk) 19:54, March 8, 2015 (UTC)