As Bourge has pointed out in the past, there's not much of a point in LMBW:Requests_for_Rights/Patroller. They're not exactly major rights, and editors that want to use them shouldn't have to bother to go through an RfR to receive them. Instead they should be able to simply request them on an admin's message wall.
Remove it.
Alemas2005 wrote:
Alemas2005 wrote: Uh, yeah, request 'em... so wait, anyone who requests those rights gets them automatically? How will it work? Will all admins have to decide on it? 'cause I'm not a fan of giving rights lightly, no matter what they are.
But what if other admins disagree anyway?
Why would they disagree? Users who would actually use them should be easily distinguishable from users who just want them for the sake of having them.
) I'll vote neutral. ▂▃▅▆▇█▓▒░Eagleeyedan▒░▓█▇▆▅▃▂Actually, Patrollers get Rollback, along with the ability to rename files.
Slicer Vorzakh wrote:
Starrocks923 wrote:
Slicer Vorzakh wrote: oppose
Also, my vote is support.
Support.
I like how you didn't question everyones' free will here, too
Because it's safe to assume they agree with the original post in its exact wording. When people oppose, you can't be certain why they don't support it, or if they even have a legitimate reason. That's why it's always nice to state that.
Madkatmaximus wrote:
Alemas2005 wrote:
Alemas2005 wrote: Uh, yeah, request 'em... so wait, anyone who requests those rights gets them automatically? How will it work? Will all admins have to decide on it? 'cause I'm not a fan of giving rights lightly, no matter what they are.
But what if other admins disagree anyway?
Why would they disagree? Users who would actually use them should be easily distinguishable from users who just want them for the sake of having them.
Madkat is right. It's generally clear if a user has a use for the rights and can be trusted. It doesn't require a vote at all. If there are any concerns other users may have, they should be able to state those where the user requested them, but it's not a situation of supporting or opposing them. It's a situation of "should this user have these rights" or "should this user not have these rights", which is determined as to whether or not they have a use for them and wouldn't abuse them. Here is an example of a request for rights page that doesn't involve a community vote. It does outline that generally (but not restricted to) 200+ edits is what you should have if you want that right and gives you a link to where you can learn how to properly use that right. Then on each request, an admin makes a determination as to whether a user can use that right or not. No vote, no hassle.
Support. Also, if an admin doesn't feel qualified to give patroller rights, they can refer the person to a more experienced editor (who's an admin).
