<p>So these two concerns were recently brought up in chat and neither of them are enforced here so I decided to let the community decide if we should enforce them or not...
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<h3><span class="mw-headline" id="About_Globally_Blocked_Users">About Globally Blocked Users</span></h3>
<p>So not too long ago we had two users who were blocked across Wikia for legit reasons, but they used proxies and made new accounts and were users here once again. That is obviously not allowed, but no one here did anything about it. Eventually the one user was banned from here for trolling and other stuff, and the other user was recently caught by Wikia Staff and blocked once again. Should globally blocked users be blocked once their indentity has been confirmed?
</p><p>A) Yes. 20 votes
</p><p>B) No. 17 votes
</p><p>Note: The COPPA vote was removed because locally blocking underage users would be revealing personal information about them and thus violating the ToU.
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<h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Consensus">Consensus</span></h2>
<p>Yes.
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<div class="quote"> <p>Alemas2005 wrote: </p> <div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: There's another flaw with this vote: If this passes, it's only going to cause Gblocked users to try and hide their identity, which as of now they don't bother doing. As it is now, if you have valid evidence you can simply report them to staff. This will only make doing that even more difficult so it's completely pointless. Basically this will pretty much cause the opposite of the desired effect of this vote... </p> </div>Well... what's wrong with that? I mean, we don't have to actively pursue anyone suspected of being g-blocked. However, if they do somehow get caught, we would have the possibility of taking action anyway. </div>Even if that's the case, it still renders this vote completely pointless. </div> <p>I would not have made this vote if it were pointless. JSYK. </p> </div> <p>As it is now, you can report them with sufficient evidence. If this passes, they'll just try harder to hide their identities making it even harder to report them. </p><p>So what's the point? </p>
<div class="quote"> <p>Alemas2005 wrote: </p> <div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: There's another flaw with this vote: If this passes, it's only going to cause Gblocked users to try and hide their identity, which as of now they don't bother doing. As it is now, if you have valid evidence you can simply report them to staff. This will only make doing that even more difficult so it's completely pointless. Basically this will pretty much cause the opposite of the desired effect of this vote... </p> </div>Well... what's wrong with that? I mean, we don't have to actively pursue anyone suspected of being g-blocked. However, if they do somehow get caught, we would have the possibility of taking action anyway. </div>Even if that's the case, it still renders this vote completely pointless. </div> <p>I would not have made this vote if it were pointless. JSYK. </p> </div> <p>As it is now, you can report them with sufficient evidence. If this passes, they'll just try harder to hide their identities making it even harder to report them. </p><p>So what's the point? </p>
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<div class="quote"> <p>Alemas2005 wrote: </p> <div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: There's another flaw with this vote: If this passes, it's only going to cause Gblocked users to try and hide their identity, which as of now they don't bother doing. As it is now, if you have valid evidence you can simply report them to staff. This will only make doing that even more difficult so it's completely pointless. Basically this will pretty much cause the opposite of the desired effect of this vote... </p> </div>Well... what's wrong with that? I mean, we don't have to actively pursue anyone suspected of being g-blocked. However, if they do somehow get caught, we would have the possibility of taking action anyway. </div>Even if that's the case, it still renders this vote completely pointless. </div> <p>I would not have made this vote if it were pointless. JSYK. </p> </div> <p>As it is now, you can report them with sufficient evidence. If this passes, they'll just try harder to hide their identities making it even harder to report them. </p><p>So what's the point? </p> </div> <p>^ </p><p>It literally just makes it harder for everyone involved. </p>
<div class="quote"> <p>Alemas2005 wrote: </p> <div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: There's another flaw with this vote: If this passes, it's only going to cause Gblocked users to try and hide their identity, which as of now they don't bother doing. As it is now, if you have valid evidence you can simply report them to staff. This will only make doing that even more difficult so it's completely pointless. Basically this will pretty much cause the opposite of the desired effect of this vote... </p> </div>Well... what's wrong with that? I mean, we don't have to actively pursue anyone suspected of being g-blocked. However, if they do somehow get caught, we would have the possibility of taking action anyway. </div>Even if that's the case, it still renders this vote completely pointless. </div> <p>I would not have made this vote if it were pointless. JSYK. </p> </div> <p>As it is now, you can report them with sufficient evidence. If this passes, they'll just try harder to hide their identities making it even harder to report them. </p><p>So what's the point? </p> </div> <p>^ </p><p>It literally just makes it harder for everyone involved. </p>
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</p> <div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: There's another flaw with this vote: If this passes, it's only going to cause Gblocked users to try and hide their identity, which as of now they don't bother doing. As it is now, if you have valid evidence you can simply report them to staff. This will only make doing that even more difficult so it's completely pointless. Basically this will pretty much cause the opposite of the desired effect of this vote... </p> </div>Well... what's wrong with that? I mean, we don't have to actively pursue anyone suspected of being g-blocked. However, if they do somehow get caught, we would have the possibility of taking action anyway.</div>Even if that's the case, it still renders this vote completely pointless.</div>I would not have made this vote if it were pointless. JSYK. </div>As it is now, you can report them with sufficient evidence. If this passes, they'll just try harder to hide their identities making it even harder to report them. <p>So what's the point? </p> </div>^ <p>It literally just makes it harder for everyone involved. </p> </div> <p>Well then so be it. This vote is to ask the community what they want. Whether it is pointless or not.
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</p> <div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: There's another flaw with this vote: If this passes, it's only going to cause Gblocked users to try and hide their identity, which as of now they don't bother doing. As it is now, if you have valid evidence you can simply report them to staff. This will only make doing that even more difficult so it's completely pointless. Basically this will pretty much cause the opposite of the desired effect of this vote... </p> </div>Well... what's wrong with that? I mean, we don't have to actively pursue anyone suspected of being g-blocked. However, if they do somehow get caught, we would have the possibility of taking action anyway.</div>Even if that's the case, it still renders this vote completely pointless.</div>I would not have made this vote if it were pointless. JSYK. </div>As it is now, you can report them with sufficient evidence. If this passes, they'll just try harder to hide their identities making it even harder to report them. <p>So what's the point? </p> </div>^ <p>It literally just makes it harder for everyone involved. </p> </div> <p>Well then so be it. This vote is to ask the community what they want. Whether it is pointless or not.
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</p> <div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: There's another flaw with this vote: If this passes, it's only going to cause Gblocked users to try and hide their identity, which as of now they don't bother doing. As it is now, if you have valid evidence you can simply report them to staff. This will only make doing that even more difficult so it's completely pointless. Basically this will pretty much cause the opposite of the desired effect of this vote... </p> </div>Well... what's wrong with that? I mean, we don't have to actively pursue anyone suspected of being g-blocked. However, if they do somehow get caught, we would have the possibility of taking action anyway.</div>Even if that's the case, it still renders this vote completely pointless.</div>I would not have made this vote if it were pointless. JSYK. </div>As it is now, you can report them with sufficient evidence. If this passes, they'll just try harder to hide their identities making it even harder to report them. <p>So what's the point? </p> </div>^ <p>It literally just makes it harder for everyone involved. </p> </div> <p>Well then so be it. This vote is to ask the community what they want. Whether it is pointless or not.</p><noscript></noscript>
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<p>I would hope the community has an informed vote, however, not just a vote based on "yes" or "no" without having to read any arguments from either side. This is why I advocate the use of community discussions rather than votes, because with community votes you can have people just vote for one side without thinking about it.
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</p> <div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: There's another flaw with this vote: If this passes, it's only going to cause Gblocked users to try and hide their identity, which as of now they don't bother doing. As it is now, if you have valid evidence you can simply report them to staff. This will only make doing that even more difficult so it's completely pointless. Basically this will pretty much cause the opposite of the desired effect of this vote... </p> </div>Well... what's wrong with that? I mean, we don't have to actively pursue anyone suspected of being g-blocked. However, if they do somehow get caught, we would have the possibility of taking action anyway.</div>Even if that's the case, it still renders this vote completely pointless.</div>I would not have made this vote if it were pointless. JSYK. </div>As it is now, you can report them with sufficient evidence. If this passes, they'll just try harder to hide their identities making it even harder to report them. <p>So what's the point? </p> </div>^ <p>It literally just makes it harder for everyone involved. </p> </div> <p>Well then so be it. This vote is to ask the community what they want. Whether it is pointless or not.
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<p>I would hope the community has an informed vote, however, not just a vote based on "yes" or "no" without having to read any arguments from either side. This is why I advocate the use of community discussions rather than votes, because with community votes you can have people just vote for one side without thinking about it.
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<div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: </p> <div class="quote"> <p>Avalair wrote: </p> <div class="quote">Madkatmaximus wrote:
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</p> <div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: There's another flaw with this vote: If this passes, it's only going to cause Gblocked users to try and hide their identity, which as of now they don't bother doing. As it is now, if you have valid evidence you can simply report them to staff. This will only make doing that even more difficult so it's completely pointless. Basically this will pretty much cause the opposite of the desired effect of this vote... </p> </div>Well... what's wrong with that? I mean, we don't have to actively pursue anyone suspected of being g-blocked. However, if they do somehow get caught, we would have the possibility of taking action anyway.</div>Even if that's the case, it still renders this vote completely pointless.</div>I would not have made this vote if it were pointless. JSYK. </div>As it is now, you can report them with sufficient evidence. If this passes, they'll just try harder to hide their identities making it even harder to report them. <p>So what's the point? </p> </div>^ <p>It literally just makes it harder for everyone involved. </p> </div> <p>Well then so be it. This vote is to ask the community what they want. Whether it is pointless or not.</p><noscript></noscript>
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<p>I would hope the community has an informed vote, however, not just a vote based on "yes" or "no" without having to read any arguments from either side. This is why I advocate the use of community discussions rather than votes, because with community votes you can have people just vote for one side without thinking about it.
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<p>Yesyesyes x1000.
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<div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: </p> <div class="quote"> <p>Avalair wrote: </p> <div class="quote">Madkatmaximus wrote:
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</p> <div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: There's another flaw with this vote: If this passes, it's only going to cause Gblocked users to try and hide their identity, which as of now they don't bother doing. As it is now, if you have valid evidence you can simply report them to staff. This will only make doing that even more difficult so it's completely pointless. Basically this will pretty much cause the opposite of the desired effect of this vote... </p> </div>Well... what's wrong with that? I mean, we don't have to actively pursue anyone suspected of being g-blocked. However, if they do somehow get caught, we would have the possibility of taking action anyway.</div>Even if that's the case, it still renders this vote completely pointless.</div>I would not have made this vote if it were pointless. JSYK. </div>As it is now, you can report them with sufficient evidence. If this passes, they'll just try harder to hide their identities making it even harder to report them. <p>So what's the point? </p> </div>^ <p>It literally just makes it harder for everyone involved. </p> </div> <p>Well then so be it. This vote is to ask the community what they want. Whether it is pointless or not.
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<p>I would hope the community has an informed vote, however, not just a vote based on "yes" or "no" without having to read any arguments from either side. This is why I advocate the use of community discussions rather than votes, because with community votes you can have people just vote for one side without thinking about it.
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<p>Yesyesyes x1000.
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</p> <div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: There's another flaw with this vote: If this passes, it's only going to cause Gblocked users to try and hide their identity, which as of now they don't bother doing. As it is now, if you have valid evidence you can simply report them to staff. This will only make doing that even more difficult so it's completely pointless. Basically this will pretty much cause the opposite of the desired effect of this vote... </p> </div>Well... what's wrong with that? I mean, we don't have to actively pursue anyone suspected of being g-blocked. However, if they do somehow get caught, we would have the possibility of taking action anyway.</div>Even if that's the case, it still renders this vote completely pointless.</div>I would not have made this vote if it were pointless. JSYK. </div>As it is now, you can report them with sufficient evidence. If this passes, they'll just try harder to hide their identities making it even harder to report them. <p>So what's the point? </p> </div>^ <p>It literally just makes it harder for everyone involved. </p> </div> <p>Well then so be it. This vote is to ask the community what they want. Whether it is pointless or not.</p><noscript></noscript>
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<p>I would hope the community has an informed vote, however, not just a vote based on "yes" or "no" without having to read any arguments from either side. This is why I advocate the use of community discussions rather than votes, because with community votes you can have people just vote for one side without thinking about it.
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<p>No one is stopping you from making a discussion.
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<div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: </p> <div class="quote"> <p>Avalair wrote: </p> <div class="quote">Madkatmaximus wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>Alemas2005 wrote: </p><p>
</p> <div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: There's another flaw with this vote: If this passes, it's only going to cause Gblocked users to try and hide their identity, which as of now they don't bother doing. As it is now, if you have valid evidence you can simply report them to staff. This will only make doing that even more difficult so it's completely pointless. Basically this will pretty much cause the opposite of the desired effect of this vote... </p> </div>Well... what's wrong with that? I mean, we don't have to actively pursue anyone suspected of being g-blocked. However, if they do somehow get caught, we would have the possibility of taking action anyway.</div>Even if that's the case, it still renders this vote completely pointless.</div>I would not have made this vote if it were pointless. JSYK. </div>As it is now, you can report them with sufficient evidence. If this passes, they'll just try harder to hide their identities making it even harder to report them. <p>So what's the point? </p> </div>^ <p>It literally just makes it harder for everyone involved. </p> </div> <p>Well then so be it. This vote is to ask the community what they want. Whether it is pointless or not.
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<p>I would hope the community has an informed vote, however, not just a vote based on "yes" or "no" without having to read any arguments from either side. This is why I advocate the use of community discussions rather than votes, because with community votes you can have people just vote for one side without thinking about it.
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<p>No one is stopping you from making a discussion.
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<div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: </p> <div class="quote"> <p>Avalair wrote: </p> <div class="quote">Madkatmaximus wrote:
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</p> <div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: There's another flaw with this vote: If this passes, it's only going to cause Gblocked users to try and hide their identity, which as of now they don't bother doing. As it is now, if you have valid evidence you can simply report them to staff. This will only make doing that even more difficult so it's completely pointless. Basically this will pretty much cause the opposite of the desired effect of this vote... </p> </div>Well... what's wrong with that? I mean, we don't have to actively pursue anyone suspected of being g-blocked. However, if they do somehow get caught, we would have the possibility of taking action anyway.</div>Even if that's the case, it still renders this vote completely pointless.</div>I would not have made this vote if it were pointless. JSYK. </div>As it is now, you can report them with sufficient evidence. If this passes, they'll just try harder to hide their identities making it even harder to report them. <p>So what's the point? </p> </div>^ <p>It literally just makes it harder for everyone involved. </p> </div> <p>Well then so be it. This vote is to ask the community what they want. Whether it is pointless or not.</p><noscript></noscript>
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<p>I would hope the community has an informed vote, however, not just a vote based on "yes" or "no" without having to read any arguments from either side. This is why I advocate the use of community discussions rather than votes, because with community votes you can have people just vote for one side without thinking about it.
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<p>No one is stopping you from making a discussion.
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<p>I didn't imply anyone was...? I simply said I encourage their usage over community votes.
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<div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: </p> <div class="quote"> <p>Avalair wrote: </p> <div class="quote">Madkatmaximus wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>Alemas2005 wrote: </p><p>
</p> <div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: There's another flaw with this vote: If this passes, it's only going to cause Gblocked users to try and hide their identity, which as of now they don't bother doing. As it is now, if you have valid evidence you can simply report them to staff. This will only make doing that even more difficult so it's completely pointless. Basically this will pretty much cause the opposite of the desired effect of this vote... </p> </div>Well... what's wrong with that? I mean, we don't have to actively pursue anyone suspected of being g-blocked. However, if they do somehow get caught, we would have the possibility of taking action anyway.</div>Even if that's the case, it still renders this vote completely pointless.</div>I would not have made this vote if it were pointless. JSYK. </div>As it is now, you can report them with sufficient evidence. If this passes, they'll just try harder to hide their identities making it even harder to report them. <p>So what's the point? </p> </div>^ <p>It literally just makes it harder for everyone involved. </p> </div> <p>Well then so be it. This vote is to ask the community what they want. Whether it is pointless or not.
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<p>I would hope the community has an informed vote, however, not just a vote based on "yes" or "no" without having to read any arguments from either side. This is why I advocate the use of community discussions rather than votes, because with community votes you can have people just vote for one side without thinking about it.
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<p>No one is stopping you from making a discussion.
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<p>I didn't imply anyone was...? I simply said I encourage their usage over community votes.
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<div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: </p> <div class="quote"> <p>Avalair wrote: </p> <div class="quote">Madkatmaximus wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>Alemas2005 wrote: </p><p>
</p> <div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: There's another flaw with this vote: If this passes, it's only going to cause Gblocked users to try and hide their identity, which as of now they don't bother doing. As it is now, if you have valid evidence you can simply report them to staff. This will only make doing that even more difficult so it's completely pointless. Basically this will pretty much cause the opposite of the desired effect of this vote... </p> </div>Well... what's wrong with that? I mean, we don't have to actively pursue anyone suspected of being g-blocked. However, if they do somehow get caught, we would have the possibility of taking action anyway.</div>Even if that's the case, it still renders this vote completely pointless.</div>I would not have made this vote if it were pointless. JSYK. </div>As it is now, you can report them with sufficient evidence. If this passes, they'll just try harder to hide their identities making it even harder to report them. <p>So what's the point? </p> </div>^ <p>It literally just makes it harder for everyone involved. </p> </div> <p>Well then so be it. This vote is to ask the community what they want. Whether it is pointless or not.</p><noscript></noscript>
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<p>I would hope the community has an informed vote, however, not just a vote based on "yes" or "no" without having to read any arguments from either side. This is why I advocate the use of community discussions rather than votes, because with community votes you can have people just vote for one side without thinking about it.
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<p>No one is stopping you from making a discussion.
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<p>I didn't imply anyone was...? I simply said I encourage their usage over community votes.
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<p>Well if you want a community discussion for this topic, make one.
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<div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: </p> <div class="quote"> <p>Avalair wrote: </p> <div class="quote">Madkatmaximus wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>Alemas2005 wrote: </p><p>
</p> <div class="quote"> <p>Madkatmaximus wrote: There's another flaw with this vote: If this passes, it's only going to cause Gblocked users to try and hide their identity, which as of now they don't bother doing. As it is now, if you have valid evidence you can simply report them to staff. This will only make doing that even more difficult so it's completely pointless. Basically this will pretty much cause the opposite of the desired effect of this vote... </p> </div>Well... what's wrong with that? I mean, we don't have to actively pursue anyone suspected of being g-blocked. However, if they do somehow get caught, we would have the possibility of taking action anyway.</div>Even if that's the case, it still renders this vote completely pointless.</div>I would not have made this vote if it were pointless. JSYK. </div>As it is now, you can report them with sufficient evidence. If this passes, they'll just try harder to hide their identities making it even harder to report them. <p>So what's the point? </p> </div>^ <p>It literally just makes it harder for everyone involved. </p> </div> <p>Well then so be it. This vote is to ask the community what they want. Whether it is pointless or not.
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<p>I would hope the community has an informed vote, however, not just a vote based on "yes" or "no" without having to read any arguments from either side. This is why I advocate the use of community discussions rather than votes, because with community votes you can have people just vote for one side without thinking about it.
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<p>No one is stopping you from making a discussion.
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<p>I didn't imply anyone was...? I simply said I encourage their usage over community votes.
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<p>Well if you want a community discussion for this topic, make one.
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