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ALL POSTSEndorsing "New LMBW"
<p>So over several disagreements, mainly over blocked words, I feel that now woild be a good time to bring this up. Now you may wonder, "why should we have an entire separate wiki for those swearers?" Well, in New LMBW, the users would be users from here who want to talk to each other with more freedom of speech then here, as the only major rule there is common sense. Even to those who won't go to the new wiki, this'll improve LMBW, where there will be fewer votes and less disagreement in general. So in summary, endorsing and joining NLMBW will be best for users of both wikis.
</p><p>Should we endorse New LMBW?
</p><p>A) Yes 7 votes
</p><p>B) No 21 votes
</p><p>C) Neutral 3 votes
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<h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Consensus">Consensus</span></h2>
<p>No
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<div class="quote">Michaelyoda wrote:
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<div class="quote">Purplebrick333 wrote:
<div class="quote">Brick425 wrote:
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Honestly I think if someone has a problem with LMBW they can grab their friends and find or make another community to have fun on - preferably not one with the label "LMBW" on it. <p>For instance, friends of mine are welcome to hang out on my wiki. </p> </div>Is LMBW a trademark? I don't see the problem.</div>No, but I don't think it should be connected. And it's confusing, like Loney said.</div>I've already disproved Loney's point. <p>Why shouldn't it be connected? It's the same thing as here, but more focused on chatting with friends instead of editing articles. </p> </div>Well, I suppose, but what's the <i>point </i>of it being connected? Why not just have it be any old social wiki?</div>To attract people who also don't agree with the rules here, but still want to talk with LMBW users.</div>Nothing is keeping anyone from talking to anyone. That is, unless you're blocked or say use banned language every other sentence. I'm fairly certain everyone here is perfectly capable of not using said language every other sentence.
</div> <p>There's nothing wrong with swearing. But there's a lot of ground between never using it and using it every sentence. </p>
<div class="quote">Brick425 wrote:
<div class="quote">Purplebrick333 wrote:
<div class="quote">Brick425 wrote:
<div class="quote">Purplebrick333 wrote:
<div class="quote">Brick425 wrote:
<div class="quote">Purplebrick333 wrote:
Honestly I think if someone has a problem with LMBW they can grab their friends and find or make another community to have fun on - preferably not one with the label "LMBW" on it. <p>For instance, friends of mine are welcome to hang out on my wiki. </p> </div>Is LMBW a trademark? I don't see the problem.</div>No, but I don't think it should be connected. And it's confusing, like Loney said.</div>I've already disproved Loney's point. <p>Why shouldn't it be connected? It's the same thing as here, but more focused on chatting with friends instead of editing articles. </p> </div>Well, I suppose, but what's the <i>point </i>of it being connected? Why not just have it be any old social wiki?</div>To attract people who also don't agree with the rules here, but still want to talk with LMBW users.</div>Nothing is keeping anyone from talking to anyone. That is, unless you're blocked or say use banned language every other sentence. I'm fairly certain everyone here is perfectly capable of not using said language every other sentence.
</div> <p>There's nothing wrong with swearing. But there's a lot of ground between never using it and using it every sentence. </p>
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<p>Regarding the gun control analogy --
</p><p>If there were people who wanted all guns banned/unbanned in America, and a country existed where those ideologies existed, wouldn't you <i>want</i> all of your opposition to move to that country so that your country's stance remains how you like it? Consider that.
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<p>we can change our votes, correct?
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<p>Dumbledore115 wrote:
we can change our votes, correct?
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<p>Yes
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<div class="quote">HyperFlash Studios wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>BubseyBrick wrote: B (duh) </p> </div>By saying duh you are assuming your reasoning is obvious, and yet as you haven't stated your reasoning it is not obvious, so would you care to elaborate?
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<p>Why would we endorse a wiki against our wiki's values? Seems counter-intuitive.
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<div class="quote"> <p>BubseyBrick wrote: B (duh) </p> </div>By saying duh you are assuming your reasoning is obvious, and yet as you haven't stated your reasoning it is not obvious, so would you care to elaborate?
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<p>Why would we endorse a wiki against our wiki's values? Seems counter-intuitive.
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<div class="quote">BubseyBrick wrote:
<div class="quote">HyperFlash Studios wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>BubseyBrick wrote: B (duh) </p> </div>By saying duh you are assuming your reasoning is obvious, and yet as you haven't stated your reasoning it is not obvious, so would you care to elaborate?</div>Why would we endorse a wiki against our wiki's values? Seems counter-intuitive.
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<p>How so? If anything, it would strengthen the values on this wiki.
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<div class="quote">HyperFlash Studios wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>BubseyBrick wrote: B (duh) </p> </div>By saying duh you are assuming your reasoning is obvious, and yet as you haven't stated your reasoning it is not obvious, so would you care to elaborate?
</div>Why would we endorse a wiki against our wiki's values? Seems counter-intuitive.
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<p>How so? If anything, it would strengthen the values on this wiki.
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<p>Slicer Vorzakh wrote:
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<div class="quote">BubseyBrick wrote:
<div class="quote">HyperFlash Studios wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>BubseyBrick wrote: B (duh) </p> </div>By saying duh you are assuming your reasoning is obvious, and yet as you haven't stated your reasoning it is not obvious, so would you care to elaborate?</div>Why would we endorse a wiki against our wiki's values? Seems counter-intuitive.
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<p>How so? If anything, it would strengthen the values on this wiki.
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<p>No it won't strengthen it, nor will it weaken it. The only thing this will do is redirect a portion of the community from here to the other wiki.
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<div class="quote">HyperFlash Studios wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>BubseyBrick wrote: B (duh) </p> </div>By saying duh you are assuming your reasoning is obvious, and yet as you haven't stated your reasoning it is not obvious, so would you care to elaborate?
</div>Why would we endorse a wiki against our wiki's values? Seems counter-intuitive.
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<p>How so? If anything, it would strengthen the values on this wiki.
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<p>No it won't strengthen it, nor will it weaken it. The only thing this will do is redirect a portion of the community from here to the other wiki.
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<p>Rapmilo wrote:
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<p>Slicer Vorzakh wrote:
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<div class="quote">BubseyBrick wrote:
<div class="quote">HyperFlash Studios wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>BubseyBrick wrote: B (duh) </p> </div>By saying duh you are assuming your reasoning is obvious, and yet as you haven't stated your reasoning it is not obvious, so would you care to elaborate?</div>Why would we endorse a wiki against our wiki's values? Seems counter-intuitive.
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<p>How so? If anything, it would strengthen the values on this wiki.
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<p>No it won't strengthen it, nor will it weaken it. The only thing this will do is redirect a portion of the community from here to the other wiki.
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<p>Yes, those who would oppose the wiki's current values, and therefore strengthen them.
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<div class="quote">HyperFlash Studios wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>BubseyBrick wrote: B (duh) </p> </div>By saying duh you are assuming your reasoning is obvious, and yet as you haven't stated your reasoning it is not obvious, so would you care to elaborate?
</div>Why would we endorse a wiki against our wiki's values? Seems counter-intuitive.
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<p>How so? If anything, it would strengthen the values on this wiki.
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<p>No it won't strengthen it, nor will it weaken it. The only thing this will do is redirect a portion of the community from here to the other wiki.
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<p>Yes, those who would oppose the wiki's current values, and therefore strengthen them.
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<p>Slicer Vorzakh wrote:
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<p>Rapmilo wrote:
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<p>Slicer Vorzakh wrote:
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<div class="quote">BubseyBrick wrote:
<div class="quote">HyperFlash Studios wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>BubseyBrick wrote: B (duh) </p> </div>By saying duh you are assuming your reasoning is obvious, and yet as you haven't stated your reasoning it is not obvious, so would you care to elaborate?</div>Why would we endorse a wiki against our wiki's values? Seems counter-intuitive.
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<p>How so? If anything, it would strengthen the values on this wiki.
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<p>No it won't strengthen it, nor will it weaken it. The only thing this will do is redirect a portion of the community from here to the other wiki.
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<p>Yes, those who would oppose the wiki's current values, and therefore strengthen them.
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<p>I fail to see a connection between moving a group of users from here to the NLMBW and strengthening values on this wiki. The values here will remain the same regardless of whether or not we endorse the NLMBW.
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<div class="quote">HyperFlash Studios wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>BubseyBrick wrote: B (duh) </p> </div>By saying duh you are assuming your reasoning is obvious, and yet as you haven't stated your reasoning it is not obvious, so would you care to elaborate?
</div>Why would we endorse a wiki against our wiki's values? Seems counter-intuitive.
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<p>How so? If anything, it would strengthen the values on this wiki.
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<p>No it won't strengthen it, nor will it weaken it. The only thing this will do is redirect a portion of the community from here to the other wiki.
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<p>Yes, those who would oppose the wiki's current values, and therefore strengthen them.
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<p>I fail to see a connection between moving a group of users from here to the NLMBW and strengthening values on this wiki. The values here will remain the same regardless of whether or not we endorse the NLMBW.
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<div class="quote">Rapmilo wrote:
<p>I fail to see a connection between moving a group of users from here to the NLMBW and strengthening values on this wiki. The values here will remain the same regardless of whether or not we endorse the NLMBW.
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<p>If you moved all of the "A" voters on votes to unblock certain swear words to another wiki, that leaves mostly/all of the B voters. Therefore, it strengthens the values on the wiki by making it easier to retain them.
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