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<div class="quote">Slicer Vorzakh wrote:
Can't this thread be closed?</div> <p>this thread is literally a day old
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Can't this thread be closed?</div> <p>this thread is literally a day old
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<p>A, I need to ask where the chaos emeralds are without people freaking out
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<div class="quote">Assassin Swipe wrote:
Hm. I understand what you're saying but at the same time this <i>isn't</i> politics. This is user rights, the idea of an RFR isn't so one user will be above another user, it's about who would benefit from the tools and who matches the ideals of the rules we put in place. Acting as if we're "campaigning" is the completely wrong mindset. Although I must say that I am a hypocrite in these matters. :P But! Now I am older and I gotta say that this isn't about politics. Anyway I would have to say B.</div> <p>per this, and yes thats a b vote but im only voting because this is the best comment here </p>
Hm. I understand what you're saying but at the same time this <i>isn't</i> politics. This is user rights, the idea of an RFR isn't so one user will be above another user, it's about who would benefit from the tools and who matches the ideals of the rules we put in place. Acting as if we're "campaigning" is the completely wrong mindset. Although I must say that I am a hypocrite in these matters. :P But! Now I am older and I gotta say that this isn't about politics. Anyway I would have to say B.</div> <p>per this, and yes thats a b vote but im only voting because this is the best comment here </p>
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<div class="quote">Starrocks923 wrote: nor do I understand mocking the vote by saying smart-alecky comments such as how we should remove his name from history everywhere else and delete 90% of the Wiki.(?!?!?!) I'll admit to thinking it was a somewhat silly, counterproductive vote when I first saw it, but Loney in particular has made some really good points in my opinion. There's no need to make sarcastic comments to make yourself look more knowledgeable and cooler in front of everyone at the expense of others. :P </div>if you're referring to my comments on not seeing a problem with deleting the wiki, that's not sarcasm, i have absolutely no issues whatsoever with any content that doesn't benefit the wiki being deleted. your passive aggression isn't very appreciated or welcome.
</div>Sorry! I mixed up a few of the quotes. Technically speaking, I was trying to refer to what users like Div were implying, and the way their comments could be construed as mildly insulting to those who voted A). I didn't mean to single you out, or anyone else for that matter! <p>If we're honest, I try not to focus too much in particular on any one comment when posting general posts like that because I'm trying not to publicly point fingers at anyone. I don't want to get into the mindset of "<i>X </i>is always the unreasonable user" when reading through blogs here. </p><p>I mentioned that Loney has made plenty of great points in this topic. I feel his latest is perhaps his best, and that arguing isn't going to solve much here. So I'm going to disappear from this thread, as my vote has been counted and my voice has been heard. </p> </div> <p>Ah alright, that's fine then, sorry for misunderstanding. </p>
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<div class="quote">Starrocks923 wrote: nor do I understand mocking the vote by saying smart-alecky comments such as how we should remove his name from history everywhere else and delete 90% of the Wiki.(?!?!?!) I'll admit to thinking it was a somewhat silly, counterproductive vote when I first saw it, but Loney in particular has made some really good points in my opinion. There's no need to make sarcastic comments to make yourself look more knowledgeable and cooler in front of everyone at the expense of others. :P </div>if you're referring to my comments on not seeing a problem with deleting the wiki, that's not sarcasm, i have absolutely no issues whatsoever with any content that doesn't benefit the wiki being deleted. your passive aggression isn't very appreciated or welcome.
</div>Sorry! I mixed up a few of the quotes. Technically speaking, I was trying to refer to what users like Div were implying, and the way their comments could be construed as mildly insulting to those who voted A). I didn't mean to single you out, or anyone else for that matter! <p>If we're honest, I try not to focus too much in particular on any one comment when posting general posts like that because I'm trying not to publicly point fingers at anyone. I don't want to get into the mindset of "<i>X </i>is always the unreasonable user" when reading through blogs here. </p><p>I mentioned that Loney has made plenty of great points in this topic. I feel his latest is perhaps his best, and that arguing isn't going to solve much here. So I'm going to disappear from this thread, as my vote has been counted and my voice has been heard. </p> </div> <p>Ah alright, that's fine then, sorry for misunderstanding. </p>
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<div class="quote">Derpulse wrote:
though also since this is just about Ale's private blog, can't he just do whatever he wants with it...? like, did this need a vote..?</div> <p>i was wondering the same thing
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though also since this is just about Ale's private blog, can't he just do whatever he wants with it...? like, did this need a vote..?</div> <p>i was wondering the same thing
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<div class="quote">Madkatmaximus wrote: <p>it kind of does matter, because this mentality of victim blaming no matter how minor it seems seriously affects people. </p><p>and when youve been abused by someone like this, its not a case of just not dwelling on it. if it were that easy everyone would have a much better time moving on. saying things like "Then it sounds like that's their problem for choosing to dwell on the past." very much implies that they just need to get over it. it's like telling someone with depression to just be happy. it doesn't work like that, it never has worked like that, and it never will work like that. </p> </div>It doesn't imply anything, it is exactly as it sounds. <p>And you continue to act like I'm only talking to the victims. </p> </div> <p>
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<div class="quote">Madkatmaximus wrote: <p>it kind of does matter, because this mentality of victim blaming no matter how minor it seems seriously affects people. </p><p>and when youve been abused by someone like this, its not a case of just not dwelling on it. if it were that easy everyone would have a much better time moving on. saying things like "Then it sounds like that's their problem for choosing to dwell on the past." very much implies that they just need to get over it. it's like telling someone with depression to just be happy. it doesn't work like that, it never has worked like that, and it never will work like that. </p> </div>It doesn't imply anything, it is exactly as it sounds. <p>And you continue to act like I'm only talking to the victims. </p> </div> <p>
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<div class="quote"> <p>Avalair wrote: Not to be ignorant, I'm genuinely curious... Why do people want them removed? Like what is the point, what does it accomplish? </p> </div>Mainly with this, it's just to get rid of the scrolling through a popular, supposedly humourous blog and then getting that 'oh, crap, right - that happened' moment.</div>I scrolled through that whole blog and didn't get that moment once. <p>B. </p> </div>just because you didn't get it doesn't mean no one else will</div>Then it sounds like that's their problem for choosing to dwell on the past.</div>what a nice thing to say to victims of a pedophile, lol</div>I'm talking to everyone, not just the victims. Victim or not, doesn't matter. <p>Lol. </p> </div>as if that changes anything lol <p>I'm honestly disturbed by this </p> </div>It does. You're trying to make me out to be the bad guy by acting like I was only talking to the victims, when I'm not. <p>Doesn't matter who you are, dwelling on the past actions of a person, particularly if said actions were negative, is not going to help anyone. </p><p>And Von, do yourself a solid and stay out of this for once. </p> </div>when you're saying it's the victims fault for being bothered by something and basically saying they need to get over it, I don't really have to do anything to make you look like the bad guy. <p>sorry. </p> </div>Once again, you act like the fact that they are victims matters. /It doesn't/. <p>Allow me to reiterate, <i>it does not matter who you are</i>, dwelling on the past actions of a person, particularly if said actions were negative, is not going to help anyone. I never once said "get over it" and I'm not downplaying the severity of Psy's actions or any of the victims, but how does constantly reminding yourself "oh, this happened" help? It doesn't, so why allow yourself to be reminded? </p><p>Von, it's not a question. I'm not asking you to stay out. </p> </div> <p>what exactly are you going to do, i don't really care if you report me to the admins for not reacting well to you treating victims like again, you know what's best for them. </p>
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<div class="quote"> <p>Avalair wrote: Not to be ignorant, I'm genuinely curious... Why do people want them removed? Like what is the point, what does it accomplish? </p> </div>Mainly with this, it's just to get rid of the scrolling through a popular, supposedly humourous blog and then getting that 'oh, crap, right - that happened' moment.</div>I scrolled through that whole blog and didn't get that moment once. <p>B. </p> </div>just because you didn't get it doesn't mean no one else will</div>Then it sounds like that's their problem for choosing to dwell on the past.</div>what a nice thing to say to victims of a pedophile, lol</div>I'm talking to everyone, not just the victims. Victim or not, doesn't matter. <p>Lol. </p> </div>as if that changes anything lol <p>I'm honestly disturbed by this </p> </div>It does. You're trying to make me out to be the bad guy by acting like I was only talking to the victims, when I'm not. <p>Doesn't matter who you are, dwelling on the past actions of a person, particularly if said actions were negative, is not going to help anyone. </p><p>And Von, do yourself a solid and stay out of this for once. </p> </div>when you're saying it's the victims fault for being bothered by something and basically saying they need to get over it, I don't really have to do anything to make you look like the bad guy. <p>sorry. </p> </div>Once again, you act like the fact that they are victims matters. /It doesn't/. <p>Allow me to reiterate, <i>it does not matter who you are</i>, dwelling on the past actions of a person, particularly if said actions were negative, is not going to help anyone. I never once said "get over it" and I'm not downplaying the severity of Psy's actions or any of the victims, but how does constantly reminding yourself "oh, this happened" help? It doesn't, so why allow yourself to be reminded? </p><p>Von, it's not a question. I'm not asking you to stay out. </p> </div> <p>what exactly are you going to do, i don't really care if you report me to the admins for not reacting well to you treating victims like again, you know what's best for them. </p>
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<div class="quote"> <p>Avalair wrote: Not to be ignorant, I'm genuinely curious... Why do people want them removed? Like what is the point, what does it accomplish? </p> </div>Mainly with this, it's just to get rid of the scrolling through a popular, supposedly humourous blog and then getting that 'oh, crap, right - that happened' moment.</div>I scrolled through that whole blog and didn't get that moment once. <p>B. </p> </div>just because you didn't get it doesn't mean no one else will</div>Then it sounds like that's their problem for choosing to dwell on the past.</div>what a nice thing to say to victims of a pedophile, lol</div>I'm talking to everyone, not just the victims. Victim or not, doesn't matter. <p>Lol. </p> </div>as if that changes anything lol <p>I'm honestly disturbed by this </p> </div>It does. You're trying to make me out to be the bad guy by acting like I was only talking to the victims, when I'm not. <p>Doesn't matter who you are, dwelling on the past actions of a person, particularly if said actions were negative, is not going to help anyone. </p><p>And Von, do yourself a solid and stay out of this for once. </p> </div> <p>Nope! I'm not going to stay out of an issue when it involves a random stranger on the internet telling victims of a pedophile what's best for them :) (also i like screwing with you idiots anyway lmbo)
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</p> <div class="quote">Loney 97 wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>Avalair wrote: Not to be ignorant, I'm genuinely curious... Why do people want them removed? Like what is the point, what does it accomplish? </p> </div>Mainly with this, it's just to get rid of the scrolling through a popular, supposedly humourous blog and then getting that 'oh, crap, right - that happened' moment.</div>I scrolled through that whole blog and didn't get that moment once. <p>B. </p> </div>just because you didn't get it doesn't mean no one else will</div>Then it sounds like that's their problem for choosing to dwell on the past.</div>what a nice thing to say to victims of a pedophile, lol</div>I'm talking to everyone, not just the victims. Victim or not, doesn't matter. <p>Lol. </p> </div>as if that changes anything lol <p>I'm honestly disturbed by this </p> </div>It does. You're trying to make me out to be the bad guy by acting like I was only talking to the victims, when I'm not. <p>Doesn't matter who you are, dwelling on the past actions of a person, particularly if said actions were negative, is not going to help anyone. </p><p>And Von, do yourself a solid and stay out of this for once. </p> </div> <p>Nope! I'm not going to stay out of an issue when it involves a random stranger on the internet telling victims of a pedophile what's best for them :) (also i like screwing with you idiots anyway lmbo)
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<div class="quote">Starrocks923 wrote: nor do I understand mocking the vote by saying smart-alecky comments such as how we should remove his name from history everywhere else and delete 90% of the Wiki.(?!?!?!) I'll admit to thinking it was a somewhat silly, counterproductive vote when I first saw it, but Loney in particular has made some really good points in my opinion. There's no need to make sarcastic comments to make yourself look more knowledgeable and cooler in front of everyone at the expense of others. :P </div>
<p>if you're referring to my comments on not seeing a problem with deleting the wiki, that's not sarcasm, i have absolutely no issues whatsoever with any content that doesn't benefit the wiki being deleted. your passive aggression isn't very appreciated or welcome.
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<div class="quote"> <p>Avalair wrote: Not to be ignorant, I'm genuinely curious... Why do people want them removed? Like what is the point, what does it accomplish? </p> </div>Mainly with this, it's just to get rid of the scrolling through a popular, supposedly humourous blog and then getting that 'oh, crap, right - that happened' moment.</div>I scrolled through that whole blog and didn't get that moment once. <p>B. </p> </div>just because you didn't get it doesn't mean no one else will</div>Then it sounds like that's their problem for choosing to dwell on the past.</div>what a nice thing to say to victims of a pedophile, lol</div>I'm talking to everyone, not just the victims. Victim or not, doesn't matter. <p>Lol. </p> </div> <p>jesus christ i actually thought you were a decent human being
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<div class="quote"> <p>Avalair wrote: Not to be ignorant, I'm genuinely curious... Why do people want them removed? Like what is the point, what does it accomplish? </p> </div>Mainly with this, it's just to get rid of the scrolling through a popular, supposedly humourous blog and then getting that 'oh, crap, right - that happened' moment.</div>I scrolled through that whole blog and didn't get that moment once. <p>B. </p> </div>just because you didn't get it doesn't mean no one else will</div>Then it sounds like that's their problem for choosing to dwell on the past.</div>what a nice thing to say to victims of a pedophile, lol</div>I'm talking to everyone, not just the victims. Victim or not, doesn't matter. <p>Lol. </p> </div> <p>jesus christ i actually thought you were a decent human being
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Is this seriously a thing. Why dont we remove all of his comments on every blog while we are at it. <p>
B </p> </div>unless they're comments that could be used as evidence against him, why not?</div>Because he was here. While non of us are happy that he was here, the fact is he was. Removing everything, or even removing everything that doesn't mark him as a pedophile, is destroying history. We should not erase parts of it, we should face the whole thing, and leave it as it is. And to all people who are like "jeez, we aren't destroying history, only a few entries in a blog": see how quickly people start suggesting we remove more and more of his stuff? THAT is what worries me. </div>golly you must find his fake, completely unfunny typos pretty funny to think of them as "history"
</div>How so? Does history have to be funny? It happend, therefor it is history. My subjective view of the level of funny-ness of the typos does not matter in the least. </div>you keep saying it's history but you've said nothing about why it's useful to the wiki</div>usefull to the wiki? USEFULL to the wiki? Since when has that been a criterea for <i>anything</i>? If where to judge things here by their usefullness, we have to delete around 90% of the wiki. </div> <p>i don't see the problem with deleting most of the wiki
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Is this seriously a thing. Why dont we remove all of his comments on every blog while we are at it. <p>
B </p> </div>unless they're comments that could be used as evidence against him, why not?</div>Because he was here. While non of us are happy that he was here, the fact is he was. Removing everything, or even removing everything that doesn't mark him as a pedophile, is destroying history. We should not erase parts of it, we should face the whole thing, and leave it as it is. And to all people who are like "jeez, we aren't destroying history, only a few entries in a blog": see how quickly people start suggesting we remove more and more of his stuff? THAT is what worries me. </div>golly you must find his fake, completely unfunny typos pretty funny to think of them as "history"
</div>How so? Does history have to be funny? It happend, therefor it is history. My subjective view of the level of funny-ness of the typos does not matter in the least. </div>you keep saying it's history but you've said nothing about why it's useful to the wiki</div>usefull to the wiki? USEFULL to the wiki? Since when has that been a criterea for <i>anything</i>? If where to judge things here by their usefullness, we have to delete around 90% of the wiki. </div> <p>i don't see the problem with deleting most of the wiki
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Is this seriously a thing. Why dont we remove all of his comments on every blog while we are at it. <p>
B </p> </div>unless they're comments that could be used as evidence against him, why not?</div>Because he was here. While non of us are happy that he was here, the fact is he was. Removing everything, or even removing everything that doesn't mark him as a pedophile, is destroying history. We should not erase parts of it, we should face the whole thing, and leave it as it is. And to all people who are like "jeez, we aren't destroying history, only a few entries in a blog": see how quickly people start suggesting we remove more and more of his stuff? THAT is what worries me. </div>golly you must find his fake, completely unfunny typos pretty funny to think of them as "history"
</div>How so? Does history have to be funny? It happend, therefor it is history. My subjective view of the level of funny-ness of the typos does not matter in the least. </div> <p>you keep saying it's history but you've said nothing about why it's useful to the wiki </p>
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Is this seriously a thing. Why dont we remove all of his comments on every blog while we are at it. <p>
B </p> </div>unless they're comments that could be used as evidence against him, why not?</div>Because he was here. While non of us are happy that he was here, the fact is he was. Removing everything, or even removing everything that doesn't mark him as a pedophile, is destroying history. We should not erase parts of it, we should face the whole thing, and leave it as it is. And to all people who are like "jeez, we aren't destroying history, only a few entries in a blog": see how quickly people start suggesting we remove more and more of his stuff? THAT is what worries me. </div>golly you must find his fake, completely unfunny typos pretty funny to think of them as "history"
</div>How so? Does history have to be funny? It happend, therefor it is history. My subjective view of the level of funny-ness of the typos does not matter in the least. </div> <p>you keep saying it's history but you've said nothing about why it's useful to the wiki </p>
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Is this seriously a thing. Why dont we remove all of his comments on every blog while we are at it. <p>
B </p> </div>unless they're comments that could be used as evidence against him, why not?</div>Because he was here. While non of us are happy that he was here, the fact is he was. Removing everything, or even removing everything that doesn't mark him as a pedophile, is destroying history. We should not erase parts of it, we should face the whole thing, and leave it as it is. And to all people who are like "jeez, we aren't destroying history, only a few entries in a blog": see how quickly people start suggesting we remove more and more of his stuff? THAT is what worries me. </div> <p>golly you must find his fake, completely unfunny typos pretty funny to think of them as "history"
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Is this seriously a thing. Why dont we remove all of his comments on every blog while we are at it. <p>
B </p> </div>unless they're comments that could be used as evidence against him, why not?</div>Because he was here. While non of us are happy that he was here, the fact is he was. Removing everything, or even removing everything that doesn't mark him as a pedophile, is destroying history. We should not erase parts of it, we should face the whole thing, and leave it as it is. And to all people who are like "jeez, we aren't destroying history, only a few entries in a blog": see how quickly people start suggesting we remove more and more of his stuff? THAT is what worries me. </div> <p>golly you must find his fake, completely unfunny typos pretty funny to think of them as "history"
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Is this seriously a thing. Why dont we remove all of his comments on every blog while we are at it. <p>
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Everyone is talking about this comparing it to removing history - it's not like that, it's getting rid of possible triggers and that sort of thing. It's a perfectly legitimate thing to consider.</div>^^^ YEP which is why im gonna vote A, it makes it seem like he's still part of our community too
</div>lets get rid of all the things that nigma and meiko had a part in too </div> <p>nice job comparing harmless trolls to a harmful pedophile </p>
<div class="quote"> <p>Peridot Dreemurr wrote: </p> <div class="quote">Loney 97 wrote:
Everyone is talking about this comparing it to removing history - it's not like that, it's getting rid of possible triggers and that sort of thing. It's a perfectly legitimate thing to consider.</div>^^^ YEP which is why im gonna vote A, it makes it seem like he's still part of our community too
</div>lets get rid of all the things that nigma and meiko had a part in too </div> <p>nice job comparing harmless trolls to a harmful pedophile </p>
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<div class="quote">I'mDivergent wrote:
Can we remove his page on the wiki too?? <p>B </p> </div> <p>let's have a vote for that too. alemas?
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Can we remove his page on the wiki too?? <p>B </p> </div> <p>let's have a vote for that too. alemas?
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<div class="quote">Loney 97 wrote:
Everyone is talking about this comparing it to removing history - it's not like that, it's getting rid of possible triggers and that sort of thing. It's a perfectly legitimate thing to consider.</div> <p>^^^ YEP which is why im gonna vote A, it makes it seem like he's still part of our community too
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Everyone is talking about this comparing it to removing history - it's not like that, it's getting rid of possible triggers and that sort of thing. It's a perfectly legitimate thing to consider.</div> <p>^^^ YEP which is why im gonna vote A, it makes it seem like he's still part of our community too
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<p>since you guys aren't going to give any songs ending with a i'll cheat
</p><p>Somebody Once Told Me (Allstar) - Smash Mouth
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