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<p>I find it hard to believe that image was drawn without sexual subtext, but perhaps that's just me. :P
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<div class="quote">Nightfall395 wrote:
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B. Whether somebody is a dupe or not isn't something to be paranoid over, unless it's <i>causing a problem</i>. And if it's causing a problem, well, then that would imply that there's enough reason to block/ban/whatever.</div>In almost all cases dupes would be outlawed by the policies and apparently forgetting about LMBW:UCS is a requirement for rights now so that policy barely exists (still makes sense to vote b tho)
</div> <p>No, I get that it's outlawed, and I get <i>why</i> too. :P But it sometimes seems like in a lot of cases, people feel a dupe needs to be banned just 'cause the rules say, whether or not the dupe is causing the trouble that dupes, in cases of the rules' validity, tend to do. </p>
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B. Whether somebody is a dupe or not isn't something to be paranoid over, unless it's <i>causing a problem</i>. And if it's causing a problem, well, then that would imply that there's enough reason to block/ban/whatever.</div>In almost all cases dupes would be outlawed by the policies and apparently forgetting about LMBW:UCS is a requirement for rights now so that policy barely exists (still makes sense to vote b tho)
</div> <p>No, I get that it's outlawed, and I get <i>why</i> too. :P But it sometimes seems like in a lot of cases, people feel a dupe needs to be banned just 'cause the rules say, whether or not the dupe is causing the trouble that dupes, in cases of the rules' validity, tend to do. </p>
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<p>B. Whether somebody is a dupe or not isn't something to be paranoid over, unless it's <i>causing a problem</i>. And if it's causing a problem, well, then that would imply that there's enough reason to block/ban/whatever.
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<p>Not sure if I'm eligible to vote, but if so, B, for sure. It's the context that matters, not the emote, and therefore, it should be the context that's monitored and not the emote.
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<p>The following is from Meiko, who asked me to paste this here. He also wishes that I add that, during his use of the Bourgeoisie account, he never used proxies, tor, or any other such thing to get around any blocks.
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In regard to wikia:c:lmbw:Thread:215310, I'd like to put down a few thoughts.
<p>First of all, neither of these topics are in a local wiki's reign to determine anything about. This wiki's <i>local</i> policies are to affect <i>local</i> matters. There are no grounds to determine global matters on this local wiki. If you want to get involved with global matters, contact Wikia staff or put in a job application at Wikia.
</p><p>As for global blocks, this is a matter that pertains exclusively between Wikia staff and the indended blockee. Global block reasons are not public, and therefore this wiki's administration is not responsible for investigating them or enforcing them. If a globally blocked user is evading a global block, that also does not belong in this wiki's jurisdiction. It's still a matter that's exclusively between the intended blockee and Wikia staff. In order to enforce a global block, you need access to tools such as MultiLookup and LookupUser. These tools are restricted to Wikia staff for a reason. The only legitimate way to "prove" that a user is the same as a globally blocked user is to find a match with the user's IP addresses, email addresses, or other personal information that this wiki's local administration does not have the ability or a justifiable reason to be able to access.
</p><p>As for COPPA, I will point out that it is a felony in most (if not all) US states and a federal offense in various locales to solicit personal information from a minor. Soliciting this information is a more serious offense than a minor having an account on Wikia. Asking a user's age for any reason and finding out they are legally considered minors and/or protected by COPPA is an offense in its own, and does the opposite of COPPA's intention: to protect childrens' information. If a user private messages you and says they're a minor under the age specified by COPPA, if you block them for being "underage", you are publicly revealing that they are a minor and thus commiting an offense yourself. This is why this type of matter is handled by Wikia staff and should be ignored on a local level. There is no reason to try to enforce this on a local level, and doing so will likely get you into more trouble than you're trying to prevent.
</p><p>Please tell me what the point of all this is, anyways? If a user does not cause abuse or disruption that interferes with this wiki's <i>local</i> policies, what reason is there to block them or prevent them from being here? It's Wikia staff's responsibility to investigate these things, and if Wikia staff can't find sufficient evidence to perform a global block, then leave it be and move on.
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If you guys wan to just stuff the policy in your pocket and only take it out if someone is hurt, or offended someone, or is really needed, fine. I can't do anything about that. </div>Isn't that the point of a policy in this case?</div>The policy doesn't want bad lingo.</div>What I mean is, the point of a policy is to prevent others from being hurt, offended, etc. in this case. So if it fulfills its purpose, isn't that fine? If you're enforcing it just because, the purpose of the policy becomes having rules just for the sake of it.</div>Sure, but you can use the f word in a non offensive way. Why not unblock it? </div> <p>When was the last time it was used in a non-offensive way? :P All its power comes from the fact that it <i>is</i> offensive. </p>
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If you guys wan to just stuff the policy in your pocket and only take it out if someone is hurt, or offended someone, or is really needed, fine. I can't do anything about that. </div>Isn't that the point of a policy in this case?</div>The policy doesn't want bad lingo.</div>What I mean is, the point of a policy is to prevent others from being hurt, offended, etc. in this case. So if it fulfills its purpose, isn't that fine? If you're enforcing it just because, the purpose of the policy becomes having rules just for the sake of it.</div>Sure, but you can use the f word in a non offensive way. Why not unblock it? </div> <p>When was the last time it was used in a non-offensive way? :P All its power comes from the fact that it <i>is</i> offensive. </p>
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If you guys wan to just stuff the policy in your pocket and only take it out if someone is hurt, or offended someone, or is really needed, fine. I can't do anything about that. </div>Isn't that the point of a policy in this case?</div>The policy doesn't want bad lingo. </div> <p>What I mean is, the point of a policy is to prevent others from being hurt, offended, etc. in this case. So if it fulfills its purpose, isn't that fine? If you're enforcing it just because, the purpose of the policy becomes having rules just for the sake of it. </p>
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If you guys wan to just stuff the policy in your pocket and only take it out if someone is hurt, or offended someone, or is really needed, fine. I can't do anything about that. </div>Isn't that the point of a policy in this case?</div>The policy doesn't want bad lingo. </div> <p>What I mean is, the point of a policy is to prevent others from being hurt, offended, etc. in this case. So if it fulfills its purpose, isn't that fine? If you're enforcing it just because, the purpose of the policy becomes having rules just for the sake of it. </p>
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<div class="quote"> <p>LegoSuperBowser wrote: If you guys wan to just stuff the policy in your pocket and only take it out if it hurts someone, or is really needed, fine. I can't do anything about that. </p> </div>We're not. Substituting swears is not against the policy unless used in a way that offends another user.</div><i>All bad language is unacceptable</i> <p>The f word is unacceptable. So that caries over to a word betraying it </p> </div> <p>http://xkcd.com/605/ </p>
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<div class="quote"> <p>LegoSuperBowser wrote: If you guys wan to just stuff the policy in your pocket and only take it out if it hurts someone, or is really needed, fine. I can't do anything about that. </p> </div>We're not. Substituting swears is not against the policy unless used in a way that offends another user.</div><i>All bad language is unacceptable</i> <p>The f word is unacceptable. So that caries over to a word betraying it </p> </div> <p>http://xkcd.com/605/ </p>
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If you guys wan to just stuff the policy in your pocket and only take it out if someone is hurt, or offended someone, or is really needed, fine. I can't do anything about that. </div> <p>Isn't that the point of a policy in this case? </p>
If you guys wan to just stuff the policy in your pocket and only take it out if someone is hurt, or offended someone, or is really needed, fine. I can't do anything about that. </div> <p>Isn't that the point of a policy in this case? </p>
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</p> <div class="quote">GuacamoleCCXR wrote:
WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH YOU, HONEST TO GOD THIS IS THE MOST RETARDED COMMUNITY VOTE OF ALL FREAKING TIME. <p>What difference does it make if it sounds similar? If I say 'what the fudge' or 'what the funk', everyone knows what I mean either way, despite me replacing more letters. It makes no freaking sense, do you not realise that the usage of one word or another does not alter the meaning of the phrase? I can insult someone without using swears, but I can use a substitute for a swear in friendly sentences. </p><p>Go rethink your freakin life or something, for Pete's sake. </p> </div>Guac, I try to keep my cool, and not let my fingers do the talking for me. That being said, I might get a little bit rude here. <p>2. First off: <i>All bad language is unacceptable. The bad language will be defined by the administrators/moderators, not by the user using the language. If you are unsure if a word is bad, then just do not use it. </i> </p><p>Fallowing that up, it's clear that the "F" word is forbidding. Period. Just like the "S" word. That includes using it in a non-offensive way. Thus, if someone is using a different word such as "buck" or "duck" or whatever, for a substitute for those words, or as you said; "replace more letters" then user's should be able to notice that you are indeed substituting different words, or more letters for banned/blocked words. And you can't use a substitute for a swear in a friendly sentence, because "<i>All bad language is unacceptable</i>". If you don't get that, then you shouldn't be a chat mod. </p><p>Going back to number 1., I think you should just go to the Fanon wiki chat, or another chat on the 'Net. There are millions of chats you can use, and you can swear all you want. That being in a friendly way, or a mean way. But don't start saying that we suck, (See, good context) because you can't even use a swear. And don't start giving me the "oh, but it's only partial swear" stuff. if you meant it to be other then what the word in its self, and it sounds like a swear, yeah, it's a swear. And I think you need to rethink your words from now on. How bad can it be to "adjust" to the wiki, for what it is <i>now? </i> </p><p>For all the other CMs that didn't do anything about Guac using "what the funk" and etc, all I can say is: Do you want to go by the rules, or use your own judgement like Guac? </p><p><span class="LSB-Sig" style="background: saddlebrown;text-shadow: 0 0 5px #4D4DFF;color:white;padding:0em 0.5em;border: solid 3px wheat;"><font style="color: red;">L</font> • <font style="color: white;">S</font> • <font style="color: blue;">B</font></span>non-CM </p> </div>If we blocked all swear replacements, we'd have to block heck, darn, dang, shoot, slag, freak, frick, frag, etc....</div>I didn't say we had to block them. Just do what's right and punish the person who is using them as swears. How hard is that?</div>So... punish people demonstrating emotion while going out of their way to avoid the offensive stuff? Yeah, they deserve it...</div>^, really. They're making sure they're not violating the policies...</div>It's not about the "offensive" stuff, it's about the policy. LFY, they are sneaking by the policy, which is not right.</div>Sneaking by the policy would be using a loophole. Using words that aren't swears to convey somewhat-similar emotion is just a way of abiding by it...</div>^This</div>Similar? They're using them <i>for </i>the word. </div> <p>Gosh, LSB, try and explain to me what harm somebody using "buck" would pose. Somebody else might be reminded that the f-word exists? </p>
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</p> <div class="quote">GuacamoleCCXR wrote:
WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH YOU, HONEST TO GOD THIS IS THE MOST RETARDED COMMUNITY VOTE OF ALL FREAKING TIME. <p>What difference does it make if it sounds similar? If I say 'what the fudge' or 'what the funk', everyone knows what I mean either way, despite me replacing more letters. It makes no freaking sense, do you not realise that the usage of one word or another does not alter the meaning of the phrase? I can insult someone without using swears, but I can use a substitute for a swear in friendly sentences. </p><p>Go rethink your freakin life or something, for Pete's sake. </p> </div>Guac, I try to keep my cool, and not let my fingers do the talking for me. That being said, I might get a little bit rude here. <p>2. First off: <i>All bad language is unacceptable. The bad language will be defined by the administrators/moderators, not by the user using the language. If you are unsure if a word is bad, then just do not use it. </i> </p><p>Fallowing that up, it's clear that the "F" word is forbidding. Period. Just like the "S" word. That includes using it in a non-offensive way. Thus, if someone is using a different word such as "buck" or "duck" or whatever, for a substitute for those words, or as you said; "replace more letters" then user's should be able to notice that you are indeed substituting different words, or more letters for banned/blocked words. And you can't use a substitute for a swear in a friendly sentence, because "<i>All bad language is unacceptable</i>". If you don't get that, then you shouldn't be a chat mod. </p><p>Going back to number 1., I think you should just go to the Fanon wiki chat, or another chat on the 'Net. There are millions of chats you can use, and you can swear all you want. That being in a friendly way, or a mean way. But don't start saying that we suck, (See, good context) because you can't even use a swear. And don't start giving me the "oh, but it's only partial swear" stuff. if you meant it to be other then what the word in its self, and it sounds like a swear, yeah, it's a swear. And I think you need to rethink your words from now on. How bad can it be to "adjust" to the wiki, for what it is <i>now? </i> </p><p>For all the other CMs that didn't do anything about Guac using "what the funk" and etc, all I can say is: Do you want to go by the rules, or use your own judgement like Guac? </p><p><span class="LSB-Sig" style="background: saddlebrown;text-shadow: 0 0 5px #4D4DFF;color:white;padding:0em 0.5em;border: solid 3px wheat;"><font style="color: red;">L</font> • <font style="color: white;">S</font> • <font style="color: blue;">B</font></span>non-CM </p> </div>If we blocked all swear replacements, we'd have to block heck, darn, dang, shoot, slag, freak, frick, frag, etc....</div>I didn't say we had to block them. Just do what's right and punish the person who is using them as swears. How hard is that?</div>So... punish people demonstrating emotion while going out of their way to avoid the offensive stuff? Yeah, they deserve it...</div>^, really. They're making sure they're not violating the policies...</div>It's not about the "offensive" stuff, it's about the policy. LFY, they are sneaking by the policy, which is not right.</div>Sneaking by the policy would be using a loophole. Using words that aren't swears to convey somewhat-similar emotion is just a way of abiding by it...</div>^This</div>Similar? They're using them <i>for </i>the word. </div> <p>Gosh, LSB, try and explain to me what harm somebody using "buck" would pose. Somebody else might be reminded that the f-word exists? </p>
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<div class="quote">LegoSuperBowser wrote:
@Alemas: Yes in a way, I guess. <p>@Mad: Heck and buck are different words. Surely you can grasp that. </p> </div> <p>Yes, they're different words, but they're the same idea in this case. Both are inoffensive words being used as replacements for ones that are more offensive. Surely <i>you</i> can grasp <i>that</i>. :P </p>
@Alemas: Yes in a way, I guess. <p>@Mad: Heck and buck are different words. Surely you can grasp that. </p> </div> <p>Yes, they're different words, but they're the same idea in this case. Both are inoffensive words being used as replacements for ones that are more offensive. Surely <i>you</i> can grasp <i>that</i>. :P </p>
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WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH YOU, HONEST TO GOD THIS IS THE MOST RETARDED COMMUNITY VOTE OF ALL FREAKING TIME. <p>What difference does it make if it sounds similar? If I say 'what the fudge' or 'what the funk', everyone knows what I mean either way, despite me replacing more letters. It makes no freaking sense, do you not realise that the usage of one word or another does not alter the meaning of the phrase? I can insult someone without using swears, but I can use a substitute for a swear in friendly sentences. </p><p>Go rethink your freakin life or something, for Pete's sake. </p> </div>Guac, I try to keep my cool, and not let my fingers do the talking for me. That being said, I might get a little bit rude here. <p>2. First off: <i>All bad language is unacceptable. The bad language will be defined by the administrators/moderators, not by the user using the language. If you are unsure if a word is bad, then just do not use it. </i> </p><p>Fallowing that up, it's clear that the "F" word is forbidding. Period. Just like the "S" word. That includes using it in a non-offensive way. Thus, if someone is using a different word such as "buck" or "duck" or whatever, for a substitute for those words, or as you said; "replace more letters" then user's should be able to notice that you are indeed substituting different words, or more letters for banned/blocked words. And you can't use a substitute for a swear in a friendly sentence, because "<i>All bad language is unacceptable</i>". If you don't get that, then you shouldn't be a chat mod. </p><p>Going back to number 1., I think you should just go to the Fanon wiki chat, or another chat on the 'Net. There are millions of chats you can use, and you can swear all you want. That being in a friendly way, or a mean way. But don't start saying that we suck, (See, good context) because you can't even use a swear. And don't start giving me the "oh, but it's only partial swear" stuff. if you meant it to be other then what the word in its self, and it sounds like a swear, yeah, it's a swear. And I think you need to rethink your words from now on. How bad can it be to "adjust" to the wiki, for what it is <i>now? </i> </p><p>For all the other CMs that didn't do anything about Guac using "what the funk" and etc, all I can say is: Do you want to go by the rules, or use your own judgement like Guac? </p><p><span class="LSB-Sig" style="background: saddlebrown;text-shadow: 0 0 5px #4D4DFF;color:white;padding:0em 0.5em;border: solid 3px wheat;"><font style="color: red;">L</font> • <font style="color: white;">S</font> • <font style="color: blue;">B</font></span>non-CM </p> </div>If we blocked all swear replacements, we'd have to block heck, darn, dang, shoot, slag, freak, frick, frag, etc....</div>I didn't say we had to block them. Just do what's right and punish the person who is using them as swears. How hard is that?</div>So... punish people demonstrating emotion while going out of their way to avoid the offensive stuff? Yeah, they deserve it...</div>^, really. They're making sure they're not violating the policies...</div>It's not about the "offensive" stuff, it's about the policy. LFY, they are sneaking by the policy, which is not right. </div> <p>Sneaking by the policy would be using a loophole. Using words that aren't swears to convey somewhat-similar emotion is just a way of abiding by it... </p>
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</p> <div class="quote">GuacamoleCCXR wrote:
WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH YOU, HONEST TO GOD THIS IS THE MOST RETARDED COMMUNITY VOTE OF ALL FREAKING TIME. <p>What difference does it make if it sounds similar? If I say 'what the fudge' or 'what the funk', everyone knows what I mean either way, despite me replacing more letters. It makes no freaking sense, do you not realise that the usage of one word or another does not alter the meaning of the phrase? I can insult someone without using swears, but I can use a substitute for a swear in friendly sentences. </p><p>Go rethink your freakin life or something, for Pete's sake. </p> </div>Guac, I try to keep my cool, and not let my fingers do the talking for me. That being said, I might get a little bit rude here. <p>2. First off: <i>All bad language is unacceptable. The bad language will be defined by the administrators/moderators, not by the user using the language. If you are unsure if a word is bad, then just do not use it. </i> </p><p>Fallowing that up, it's clear that the "F" word is forbidding. Period. Just like the "S" word. That includes using it in a non-offensive way. Thus, if someone is using a different word such as "buck" or "duck" or whatever, for a substitute for those words, or as you said; "replace more letters" then user's should be able to notice that you are indeed substituting different words, or more letters for banned/blocked words. And you can't use a substitute for a swear in a friendly sentence, because "<i>All bad language is unacceptable</i>". If you don't get that, then you shouldn't be a chat mod. </p><p>Going back to number 1., I think you should just go to the Fanon wiki chat, or another chat on the 'Net. There are millions of chats you can use, and you can swear all you want. That being in a friendly way, or a mean way. But don't start saying that we suck, (See, good context) because you can't even use a swear. And don't start giving me the "oh, but it's only partial swear" stuff. if you meant it to be other then what the word in its self, and it sounds like a swear, yeah, it's a swear. And I think you need to rethink your words from now on. How bad can it be to "adjust" to the wiki, for what it is <i>now? </i> </p><p>For all the other CMs that didn't do anything about Guac using "what the funk" and etc, all I can say is: Do you want to go by the rules, or use your own judgement like Guac? </p><p><span class="LSB-Sig" style="background: saddlebrown;text-shadow: 0 0 5px #4D4DFF;color:white;padding:0em 0.5em;border: solid 3px wheat;"><font style="color: red;">L</font> • <font style="color: white;">S</font> • <font style="color: blue;">B</font></span>non-CM </p> </div>If we blocked all swear replacements, we'd have to block heck, darn, dang, shoot, slag, freak, frick, frag, etc....</div>I didn't say we had to block them. Just do what's right and punish the person who is using them as swears. How hard is that?</div>So... punish people demonstrating emotion while going out of their way to avoid the offensive stuff? Yeah, they deserve it...</div>^, really. They're making sure they're not violating the policies...</div>It's not about the "offensive" stuff, it's about the policy. LFY, they are sneaking by the policy, which is not right. </div> <p>Sneaking by the policy would be using a loophole. Using words that aren't swears to convey somewhat-similar emotion is just a way of abiding by it... </p>
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WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH YOU, HONEST TO GOD THIS IS THE MOST RETARDED COMMUNITY VOTE OF ALL FREAKING TIME. <p>What difference does it make if it sounds similar? If I say 'what the fudge' or 'what the funk', everyone knows what I mean either way, despite me replacing more letters. It makes no freaking sense, do you not realise that the usage of one word or another does not alter the meaning of the phrase? I can insult someone without using swears, but I can use a substitute for a swear in friendly sentences. </p><p>Go rethink your freakin life or something, for Pete's sake. </p> </div>Guac, I try to keep my cool, and not let my fingers do the talking for me. That being said, I might get a little bit rude here. <p>2. First off: <i>All bad language is unacceptable. The bad language will be defined by the administrators/moderators, not by the user using the language. If you are unsure if a word is bad, then just do not use it. </i> </p><p>Fallowing that up, it's clear that the "F" word is forbidding. Period. Just like the "S" word. That includes using it in a non-offensive way. Thus, if someone is using a different word such as "buck" or "duck" or whatever, for a substitute for those words, or as you said; "replace more letters" then user's should be able to notice that you are indeed substituting different words, or more letters for banned/blocked words. And you can't use a substitute for a swear in a friendly sentence, because "<i>All bad language is unacceptable</i>". If you don't get that, then you shouldn't be a chat mod. </p><p>Going back to number 1., I think you should just go to the Fanon wiki chat, or another chat on the 'Net. There are millions of chats you can use, and you can swear all you want. That being in a friendly way, or a mean way. But don't start saying that we suck, (See, good context) because you can't even use a swear. And don't start giving me the "oh, but it's only partial swear" stuff. if you meant it to be other then what the word in its self, and it sounds like a swear, yeah, it's a swear. And I think you need to rethink your words from now on. How bad can it be to "adjust" to the wiki, for what it is <i>now? </i> </p><p>For all the other CMs that didn't do anything about Guac using "what the funk" and etc, all I can say is: Do you want to go by the rules, or use your own judgement like Guac? </p><p><span class="LSB-Sig" style="background: saddlebrown;text-shadow: 0 0 5px #4D4DFF;color:white;padding:0em 0.5em;border: solid 3px wheat;"><font style="color: red;">L</font> • <font style="color: white;">S</font> • <font style="color: blue;">B</font></span>non-CM </p> </div>If we blocked all swear replacements, we'd have to block heck, darn, dang, shoot, slag, freak, frick, frag, etc....</div>I didn't say we had to block them. Just do what's right and punish the person who is using them as swears. How hard is that?</div>That would mean punishing people for saying "What the heck" and things like that.</div>No, "heck" isn't a swear. But people using "what the buck" is. is that to hard to grasp? brick and buck are kinda different.
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<p>That's why all the television and radio stations bleep out "buck", right?
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<div class="quote">Madkatmaximus wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>LegoSuperBowser wrote: </p><p>
</p> <div class="quote">Madkatmaximus wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>LegoSuperBowser wrote: </p><p>
</p> <div class="quote">GuacamoleCCXR wrote:
WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH YOU, HONEST TO GOD THIS IS THE MOST RETARDED COMMUNITY VOTE OF ALL FREAKING TIME. <p>What difference does it make if it sounds similar? If I say 'what the fudge' or 'what the funk', everyone knows what I mean either way, despite me replacing more letters. It makes no freaking sense, do you not realise that the usage of one word or another does not alter the meaning of the phrase? I can insult someone without using swears, but I can use a substitute for a swear in friendly sentences. </p><p>Go rethink your freakin life or something, for Pete's sake. </p> </div>Guac, I try to keep my cool, and not let my fingers do the talking for me. That being said, I might get a little bit rude here. <p>2. First off: <i>All bad language is unacceptable. The bad language will be defined by the administrators/moderators, not by the user using the language. If you are unsure if a word is bad, then just do not use it. </i> </p><p>Fallowing that up, it's clear that the "F" word is forbidding. Period. Just like the "S" word. That includes using it in a non-offensive way. Thus, if someone is using a different word such as "buck" or "duck" or whatever, for a substitute for those words, or as you said; "replace more letters" then user's should be able to notice that you are indeed substituting different words, or more letters for banned/blocked words. And you can't use a substitute for a swear in a friendly sentence, because "<i>All bad language is unacceptable</i>". If you don't get that, then you shouldn't be a chat mod. </p><p>Going back to number 1., I think you should just go to the Fanon wiki chat, or another chat on the 'Net. There are millions of chats you can use, and you can swear all you want. That being in a friendly way, or a mean way. But don't start saying that we suck, (See, good context) because you can't even use a swear. And don't start giving me the "oh, but it's only partial swear" stuff. if you meant it to be other then what the word in its self, and it sounds like a swear, yeah, it's a swear. And I think you need to rethink your words from now on. How bad can it be to "adjust" to the wiki, for what it is <i>now? </i> </p><p>For all the other CMs that didn't do anything about Guac using "what the funk" and etc, all I can say is: Do you want to go by the rules, or use your own judgement like Guac? </p><p><span class="LSB-Sig" style="background: saddlebrown;text-shadow: 0 0 5px #4D4DFF;color:white;padding:0em 0.5em;border: solid 3px wheat;"><font style="color: red;">L</font> • <font style="color: white;">S</font> • <font style="color: blue;">B</font></span>non-CM </p> </div>If we blocked all swear replacements, we'd have to block heck, darn, dang, shoot, slag, freak, frick, frag, etc....</div>I didn't say we had to block them. Just do what's right and punish the person who is using them as swears. How hard is that?</div>That would mean punishing people for saying "What the heck" and things like that.</div>No, "heck" isn't a swear. But people using "what the buck" is. is that to hard to grasp? brick and buck are kinda different.
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<p>That's why all the television and radio stations bleep out "buck", right?
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<div class="quote">LegoSuperBowser wrote:
<div class="quote">Madkatmaximus wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>LegoSuperBowser wrote: </p><p>
</p> <div class="quote">GuacamoleCCXR wrote:
WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH YOU, HONEST TO GOD THIS IS THE MOST RETARDED COMMUNITY VOTE OF ALL FREAKING TIME. <p>What difference does it make if it sounds similar? If I say 'what the fudge' or 'what the funk', everyone knows what I mean either way, despite me replacing more letters. It makes no freaking sense, do you not realise that the usage of one word or another does not alter the meaning of the phrase? I can insult someone without using swears, but I can use a substitute for a swear in friendly sentences. </p><p>Go rethink your freakin life or something, for Pete's sake. </p> </div>Guac, I try to keep my cool, and not let my fingers do the talking for me. That being said, I might get a little bit rude here. <p>2. First off: <i>All bad language is unacceptable. The bad language will be defined by the administrators/moderators, not by the user using the language. If you are unsure if a word is bad, then just do not use it. </i> </p><p>Fallowing that up, it's clear that the "F" word is forbidding. Period. Just like the "S" word. That includes using it in a non-offensive way. Thus, if someone is using a different word such as "buck" or "duck" or whatever, for a substitute for those words, or as you said; "replace more letters" then user's should be able to notice that you are indeed substituting different words, or more letters for banned/blocked words. And you can't use a substitute for a swear in a friendly sentence, because "<i>All bad language is unacceptable</i>". If you don't get that, then you shouldn't be a chat mod. </p><p>Going back to number 1., I think you should just go to the Fanon wiki chat, or another chat on the 'Net. There are millions of chats you can use, and you can swear all you want. That being in a friendly way, or a mean way. But don't start saying that we suck, (See, good context) because you can't even use a swear. And don't start giving me the "oh, but it's only partial swear" stuff. if you meant it to be other then what the word in its self, and it sounds like a swear, yeah, it's a swear. And I think you need to rethink your words from now on. How bad can it be to "adjust" to the wiki, for what it is <i>now? </i> </p><p>For all the other CMs that didn't do anything about Guac using "what the funk" and etc, all I can say is: Do you want to go by the rules, or use your own judgement like Guac? </p><p><span class="LSB-Sig" style="background: saddlebrown;text-shadow: 0 0 5px #4D4DFF;color:white;padding:0em 0.5em;border: solid 3px wheat;"><font style="color: red;">L</font> • <font style="color: white;">S</font> • <font style="color: blue;">B</font></span>non-CM </p> </div>If we blocked all swear replacements, we'd have to block heck, darn, dang, shoot, slag, freak, frick, frag, etc....</div>I didn't say we had to block them. Just do what's right and punish the person who is using them as swears. How hard is that? </div> <p>So... punish people demonstrating emotion while going out of their way to avoid the offensive stuff? Yeah, they deserve it... </p>
<div class="quote">Madkatmaximus wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>LegoSuperBowser wrote: </p><p>
</p> <div class="quote">GuacamoleCCXR wrote:
WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH YOU, HONEST TO GOD THIS IS THE MOST RETARDED COMMUNITY VOTE OF ALL FREAKING TIME. <p>What difference does it make if it sounds similar? If I say 'what the fudge' or 'what the funk', everyone knows what I mean either way, despite me replacing more letters. It makes no freaking sense, do you not realise that the usage of one word or another does not alter the meaning of the phrase? I can insult someone without using swears, but I can use a substitute for a swear in friendly sentences. </p><p>Go rethink your freakin life or something, for Pete's sake. </p> </div>Guac, I try to keep my cool, and not let my fingers do the talking for me. That being said, I might get a little bit rude here. <p>2. First off: <i>All bad language is unacceptable. The bad language will be defined by the administrators/moderators, not by the user using the language. If you are unsure if a word is bad, then just do not use it. </i> </p><p>Fallowing that up, it's clear that the "F" word is forbidding. Period. Just like the "S" word. That includes using it in a non-offensive way. Thus, if someone is using a different word such as "buck" or "duck" or whatever, for a substitute for those words, or as you said; "replace more letters" then user's should be able to notice that you are indeed substituting different words, or more letters for banned/blocked words. And you can't use a substitute for a swear in a friendly sentence, because "<i>All bad language is unacceptable</i>". If you don't get that, then you shouldn't be a chat mod. </p><p>Going back to number 1., I think you should just go to the Fanon wiki chat, or another chat on the 'Net. There are millions of chats you can use, and you can swear all you want. That being in a friendly way, or a mean way. But don't start saying that we suck, (See, good context) because you can't even use a swear. And don't start giving me the "oh, but it's only partial swear" stuff. if you meant it to be other then what the word in its self, and it sounds like a swear, yeah, it's a swear. And I think you need to rethink your words from now on. How bad can it be to "adjust" to the wiki, for what it is <i>now? </i> </p><p>For all the other CMs that didn't do anything about Guac using "what the funk" and etc, all I can say is: Do you want to go by the rules, or use your own judgement like Guac? </p><p><span class="LSB-Sig" style="background: saddlebrown;text-shadow: 0 0 5px #4D4DFF;color:white;padding:0em 0.5em;border: solid 3px wheat;"><font style="color: red;">L</font> • <font style="color: white;">S</font> • <font style="color: blue;">B</font></span>non-CM </p> </div>If we blocked all swear replacements, we'd have to block heck, darn, dang, shoot, slag, freak, frick, frag, etc....</div>I didn't say we had to block them. Just do what's right and punish the person who is using them as swears. How hard is that? </div> <p>So... punish people demonstrating emotion while going out of their way to avoid the offensive stuff? Yeah, they deserve it... </p>
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<div class="quote">Alemas2005 wrote:
<div class="quote"> <p>BrickfilmNut wrote: Not sure if my opinion counts here, but if you're going to ban a perfectly-legitimate word with legitimate uses... I'm gonna oppose. Should "luck" be next? "Puck"? "Duck"? Eesh... </p> </div> <div class="quote">LegoI3rickI3uilder wrote:
If you block that word, BCG can't Roleplay anymore! Also, that means no more Starbucks in chat! </div>
<p>So, are you two going for "D)", then?
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<p>I think that's the case. :P
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<div class="quote"> <p>BrickfilmNut wrote: Not sure if my opinion counts here, but if you're going to ban a perfectly-legitimate word with legitimate uses... I'm gonna oppose. Should "luck" be next? "Puck"? "Duck"? Eesh... </p> </div> <div class="quote">LegoI3rickI3uilder wrote:
If you block that word, BCG can't Roleplay anymore! Also, that means no more Starbucks in chat! </div>
<p>So, are you two going for "D)", then?
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<p>I think that's the case. :P
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<div class="quote">LondonDauntlessCorvair963 wrote:
<div class="quote">TwistedAlpha wrote:
Isn't brick the same case? Leave it.</div>Please don't ban the word brick. When people are talking to me, they will say a red X word if they don't say LDC or London. :P </div> <p>Clearly we should ban all words that rhyme with swear words, as well as their "replacements". No more "sell" or "well" as well as "deck" or "check". No more "ham" or "maam" as well as "yarn" or "barn". And the entire "f" section of the dictionary should just go... </p>
<div class="quote">TwistedAlpha wrote:
Isn't brick the same case? Leave it.</div>Please don't ban the word brick. When people are talking to me, they will say a red X word if they don't say LDC or London. :P </div> <p>Clearly we should ban all words that rhyme with swear words, as well as their "replacements". No more "sell" or "well" as well as "deck" or "check". No more "ham" or "maam" as well as "yarn" or "barn". And the entire "f" section of the dictionary should just go... </p>
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<p>Not sure if my opinion counts here, but if you're going to ban a perfectly-legitimate word with legitimate uses... I'm gonna oppose. Should "luck" be next? "Puck"? "Duck"? Eesh...
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<div class="quote">Keplers wrote:
I WASNT INFORMED OF THIS?!?!??! <p>I HAVE A TON OF AWESOME BIO AND HF MOCS! HOW DARE YE NOT TELL ME OF THIS!!! :P </p> </div> <p>We haven't chosen a BIO judge yet. You could still apply. :P </p>
I WASNT INFORMED OF THIS?!?!??! <p>I HAVE A TON OF AWESOME BIO AND HF MOCS! HOW DARE YE NOT TELL ME OF THIS!!! :P </p> </div> <p>We haven't chosen a BIO judge yet. You could still apply. :P </p>
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<div class="quote">Legostudios34 wrote:
Are all the contests going to be Bionicle related or can we do a Train contest?</div> <p>BIONICLE will just be a recurring theme. Trains is a good idea, but we already have about a year's worth of contests planned, so you may have to wait a while for Trains, or incorporate trains in a different contest, like a CITY one. </p>
Are all the contests going to be Bionicle related or can we do a Train contest?</div> <p>BIONICLE will just be a recurring theme. Trains is a good idea, but we already have about a year's worth of contests planned, so you may have to wait a while for Trains, or incorporate trains in a different contest, like a CITY one. </p>
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